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you deserve no credit for what you were born as -- dale carnegie
@icedquinn @freemo I agree. We also have 'deaf pride' here, which can go ridiculously far as well..
I think pride is either a misnomer.. or you need to see it at an individual level: You can be proud of who you are, just because you are yourself. No lying to yourself. If you're gay, fine, be proud of yourself! If you're deaf, fine, be proud of yourself! No need to be ashamed!
LGBTQ have a long history of being shamed, and being stuck "in the closet" out of shame and fear... the use of the term "pride" is a counter to that, it isnt about being prideful of who you are, it is about having enough pride to not be ashamed of it.
I'd certainly have nothing with deaf pride though either.. but since being deaf is so much harder to hide im not sure it has the same dynamic of being "in the closet". Though I am sure there has been no shortage of deaf people being shamed.
@freemo @icedquinn Oh, but the problem is exactly because being deaf is not visible enough. You're blind? People help you. Wheelchair? People help you. Deaf? HOW RUDE WHY DID YOU NOT RESPOND TO ME *BAF*
@freemo @icedquinn Or what about this:
This deaf moron couldn't understand what I'm saying, they must be a retard.
@freemo @icedquinn I remember at least 3 decades ago, many deaf people want to hide they're deaf. They were ashamed to even use sign language in public. My generation or the one right before mine might be the first ones who are like 'eff it'. Still a bit ashamed for people looking our way but also recalcitrant like staring back and then smiling ridiculously and waving back so the hearies all just look away, embarassed themselves.
@freemo @icedquinn Ok, that's enough soapbox for me. I have to prepare to go to job, and I get worked up here, lol. Cya!
For the record, I've never shamed a deaf person for being deaf. My sign language may not be perfect, but my mime is top-shelf.
@lucifargundam @freemo @icedquinn Heh heh. In an airplane, on the way to home for Xmas, there was a steward trying to ask me which meal I'd prefer. So he mimed a cow and a chicken in a fun way. I had to laugh. I don't remember which one I chose for my meal. ;)
Miming's fine, as long as it's genuine. :) I've had a few fun encounters with that.
@trinsec @lucifargundam @icedquinn
Now i wanna play charades.
@freemo @lucifargundam @icedquinn Charades is harder for us than you think, since we're not allowed to use sign language.. :D
@trinsec @lucifargundam @icedquinn
Just gotta make up your own sign language :]
@freemo @lucifargundam @icedquinn As soon as it is a 'language' it's not a charade anymore. ;)
if i took it on the broadsides, lived, and was demanded to remain stoic, what the hell is everyone else crowing about?
I've never noticed this myself, but how could I? I could count on one hand the number of deaf, blind, and mute people I have met in my 40 years of life, literally... at least in person that I knew about. 2 deaf people in my whole life, and similar numbers of blind.. never met a mute.
That said I'm sure you would know far more than me, so I defer to you on this one. It makes sense re: visibility I suppose.
@freemo
So, basically what I just said. :D The same counts for deaf people, you know.
@icedquinn