@mzan No one did criticize it, thats the point of the post.

@freemo ah ok sorry. Understood. There were no drama when the film came out, and I know/remember this (I'm old enough).

But there is no criticism also now. I thought there were someone criticizing the film, right now.

In any case, for sake of security, I will cancell you 🙂

@mzan There is no ciriticising the film now, but there IS a lot of people complaining about drag queens reading to kids, which is something in the film but no one objected to the film.

@freemo but I think that a modern drag queen reading books to kids is likely that she is doing some sort of "political action"/propaganda.

If there is a drag-queen who is a normal teacher, with her character and attitude, no problem. This can be also very formative for the kids, because this open their minds.

But if there is a political agenda, and the drag queen teacher go only from class to class for instilling doubts in the children, then I can be suspicious, and I don't like it.

Mrs Doubtfire was not about a teacher instilling gender/sex related doubts in the children, but he/she was a normal/funny person.

@mzan No one is dressing up as drag queens to convert your kids... at worst they just want people to know they exist and get to interact with them so they know they are good people.. they are reading books because it is a nice thing to do for children.... jesus christ this isnt complicated.

@freemo sorry, but I don't believe to this story.

@freemo

> jesus christ this isnt complicated.

you can always complicate it, creating a post without a link. I don't live in USA, and I cannot read your mind.

Summing up, I'm not scared of anybody interacting with children, if he/she is genuine. The world is made of diversity and the more they see, the better is for their mind/knowledge.

I'm only scared of people with a political agenda, that want to mess with the children.

If queers want to show up to children with their personality, joy and they want to read funny books, I'm happy. In worst case scenario, it is a lot better of many shows on TV with violence and monsters 🙂

If doing so, they implicitly want to reduce the future complications of some child that growing up, discover that he/she has gender/sex "problems", then this is useful.

If their main plan is to instill in children doubts about sex and gender, then I don't agree.

But, I have already said this. Only for being clear.

@mzan Nah your fine, its men who dress in womens cloths enriching your children with good childrens books and reading... nothing more. If there is any agenda it is just wanted to be treated like normal people by doing this very normal (and kind hearted) task as a way to do that. It wasnt a big issue in the movie or in general until the right-wing made it one.

@freemo ok, if the queer are failing with the children, we can go in tour together explaining to the children the hundred occasions when the "portable car toilet" can be useful. The word "poop" cannot fail with the children 🙂

@ChristiJunior @freemo @mzan These retarded faggots don't realize they're in real danger lol.

We're not the brain broken sub 80 iq boomers.

Lying on the internet eh?

That's not what I heard.
https://youtu.be/ArOQF4kadHA

This is the official LGBT organization and this is them explicitly saying they want to indoctrinate and rape children.

@freemo @mzan There is footage of drag queens marching at pride parades literally chanting that they want to convert children

@Alex

You will always find exceptions.

@mzan

@freemo @mzan You said no one is doing it though.

@Alex

When I, and most people, say "no one" we meant of the billions of people int he world a statisticially insignificant number of people of those... but not being nerds most of the time people say "no one" knowing what is meant. Hope that clarifies.

@mzan

@freemo @mzan Drag queens themselves are a statistically insignificant number of people when you're looking at that scale; it'd be just as easy to say "no one is a drag queen" or even "no one is reading to children in drag" when you're looking at it on a scale of "significant numbers of people relative to ~8 billion"

@Alex

In terms of percentages, based on surveys, 1% to 5% of men cross-dress... thats a significant number.

@mzan

@freemo @mzan Cross dressing isn't drag; drag is a niche and extreme subgroup of cross dressing, which tends to revel in grotesque, often misogynistic and transphobic caricatures of femininity. While most cross dressers are either doing it privately, or if doing it in public, trying to "pass" and successfully appear as the opposite gender, drag is all about appearing as a drag queen, since being a grotesque caricature is the main motivation. It really isn't comparable to regular cross dressing.

@Alex

Yea clearly that is something you have never bothered to see for yourself and judge.. cause that is completely detached fromt he reality.

@mzan

@freemo @mzan Trust me, I'm a cross dresser, I know a hell of a lot more about cross dressing and its subcultures than you do.

ANSWER THE QUESTION "DOCTOR"

IF ITS JUST ABOUT THEM WANTING "TO BE SEEN IN A POSITIVE WAY" WHY ARE THEY ONLY SEEKING CHILDREN

WHY NOT READ TO NURSING HOMES? OR DISABLED VETS?

WHY IS IT ALWAYS KIDS

@freemo

> In terms of percentages, based on surveys, 1% to 5% of men cross-dress... thats a significant number.

I worry that plastic chemicals in our blood and especially of the fetus, that acts like female estrogens, are increasing the gender problems in population, mainly males.

There should be more serious studies about this, because now micro-plastic is every where.

@Alex

Uh huh

@mzan they generally read perfectly normal childrens books when ive seen it.

@freemo

Some Like It Hot (1959)

Also, I think there were a couple of silent-era films that featured men in drag, but I don't remember the names.

@mzan

>"...books, with a transgender agenda? I don't agree."

What is a "transgender agenda". Do you mean books about the 24th Amendment, or the Preamble to the Constitution, or the introduction to the Declaration of Independence?

@Pat

A masterpiece is "The Crying Game" by Neil Jordan.

> What is a "transgender agenda".
> Do you mean books about the 24th Amendment, or the Preamble to the Constitution, or the introduction to the Declaration of Independence?

No, I mean things like "if you become a woman, you can become a professional female athlete" or "there are no differences in the mind of a man respect the mind of a woman" and other similar crazy things.

@freemo

@mzan

Women have a right to pursue a career in sports if they wish.

I don't understand your second quote, it doesn't make grammatical sense to me.

@freemo

@Pat

I think there is legitimate concern here about trans-women in women sports. That said I dont see the solution as "base entry on birth-sex".. the solution is much more subtle IMO and needs to be gender neutral, I dont know what that solution is. Maybe just have divisions and dont base it on gender at all.

@mzan

@Pat

> "...books, with a transgender agenda? I don't agree."

I read that in USA someone is considering "Sleeping Beauty" as a case of rape, because the prince kissed the "beauty" without her consent, while she was sleeping. So, with these premises, and without having a clear situation of the campaign (that now I believe/assume is in good faith), I were thinking to a Drag Queen telling about "The Ugly Duckling" in a distort way...

At this point I worry about an Only-fans teacher, telling "Cinderella", explaining to the girls how to become a gold digger, and to the boys about the joy of foot-fetishism 🙂

It is not the exact content of the books, because the majority of tales and children books contain also strange/worrying elements, but it is the way the narrator tells them. As in life.

@freemo

@mzan

Don't put those words under my name. I did not say those words, you did.

We're done.
@freemo

U A BITCH MADE NIGGA

@thatguyoverthere

We call that cherry picking... This is more typical of what drag queen story hour actually looks like.

@mzan

@freemo @mzan I grabbed the first picture from a meta search engine and you found a picture that appeals to what you believe is normal. we call that cherry picking.

@thatguyoverthere @mzan

And yet when you search for it in google search no pictures look anything like what you shared... lie to yourself all you want.

@freemo @mzan LMFAO I told you I used a meta search engine. I don't search on google. I am shocked that the google machine algorithm might do anything to manipulate those search results. shocked I tell you.

@freemo @mzan even cherry picked it's no where near as wholesome as the clothing worn by Mrs Doubtfire

@freemo @mzan just for the record since you seem to think Google is the only damn search engine around (I specifically said meta search engine 🤣)

@freemo @mzan so it was the 3rd result, 1st row. my apologies

@thatguyoverthere

Ahh so it **wasnt** the first hit, it was the third. You intentionally skipped the first hit because it looked wholesome... gotcha.

@mzan

@freemo @mzan lmao that's not wholesome... You pretend the pictures don't exist the thing is full of them.

@freemo @mzan the first one is looking away from the camera

@freemo @thatguyoverthere @mzan As if it were the clothes that matter. So long as demonheart looks respectable I guess?

@thatguyoverthere

I appreciate your tone! Thanks 🙂

I think that it is a rather sensitive subject. We probably only agree if we see some example videos of some "lecture", and then we comment only on them saying: "this is right", "this is weird", "this is dangerous and there is an agenda", etc... i.e. on concrete cases.

Without concrete examples, it is hard to discuss, because the range of things that can go well or bad is too much broad.

BTW, also a bad teacher, in a normal class, can damage a lot the children, despite he/she is not a Drag Queen. So being vigilant is good, but prejudices alone can not save the children.

@freemo

@thatguyoverthere @freemo @mzan No. It's pretty similar.
Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire wanted access to his kids.
DQST troons want access to your kids.
The main difference being the troons want that access so they can sexually abuse them (they raperoduce by touching children.)

@Nou @freemo @mzan the other difference being WIlliams wanted access to his own children and his ex-wife was using them against him (totally fabricated scenario I know)

@thatguyoverthere @Nou @mzan

and int he end realized even once he had access to his kids again it was so enriching for him to cross-dress and be that "character" that he started reading to kids on TV as a drag queen even though he no longer needed to do so to keep his kids.

@freemo @Nou @mzan being forced to change your entire personality could scar a person. It's also a fiction.

@thatguyoverthere @freemo @mzan Oh, no. That's the same actually.
Most of the kids being exposed to troon garbage it's because their single moms are using them as weapons against their dads/to gain social status.