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@garbados @js290 Nope not what I said. Antifascism as a principle is not iteself inherently fascist. However organizations which identify under the title Antifa IS fascist. The trick is just that they are NOT actually behaving in a antifascist way (despite the suggestion by the "ANTIFA" title).

Its not different than any other movement. We have an anti-sexism movement, I would never say that "anti-sexism is just sexism". Despite that fact there is no shortage of groups which claim to be anti-sexism yet behave in explicitly sexist ways. It is a common human failing to aspire towards one ideal while actually exhibiting
the opposite.

@js290 @garbados I lived int he USA before I came to the netherlands. So I was referring to my time in the USA. The violence perpetrated by people who claim to be antifa (along with other violence from both the left and right, and other intolerance) is why i left the USA.

@garbados @js290 Again not all antifascists are antifa, just as not all people who are anti-sexist identify as feminists either. Antifa is an identity which some people who are against fascists use.

@garbados Mostly because of a pattern of behavior. I've seen too much violence associated with people who are part of a local organization claiming the "antifa" title. Not to mention they also seem a bit over the top in their estimation of what is or is not fascism. Usually anything that they disagree with socially or politically they see as fascist.

With that said there is legitimate fascism that is worth speaking out against and I have no issue with protesters who speak out against such cases.

@garbados @js290 I cant speak for any content anyone else posted. I know I personally witnessed four accounts of people with local antifa organizations committing violence at protests. So it is certainly a very real problem from what I've seen first hand.

@garbados I support Antifascism, I do not support the majority of groups who organize under the title of Antifa however. The distinction is important.

@garbados black bloc is a style of clothing often used by people who organize under the name "antifa". But no I am refering to people who tend to organize under the title "antifa" regardless of if they choose to wear the black bloc or not.

@garbados Antifa refers to the organizations that have organized under the name "antifa". The ideal itself is a good one, but just as so often is the case the actual people who organize under the name "antifa" do not act in a way that is "good".

@TheKinrar Any idea why the stats for my instance on instances.social is so far off from the real numbers?

WOOT! Just reached 700 followers. Thanks to all my new and old followers for listening to my musings!

@js290 @bnys While I dont agree with that viewpoint as someone who leans libertarian on many issues I can see the appeal of that perspective.

@js290 @bnys I dont agree with the whole breaking them up and redistributing their wealth part. I think it should be legally fine for a facebook to own a monopoly on providing access to their social media network. It is just that in doing so the speech within the network must be protected.

Its a bit like sidewalk in front of a house in most cities. Its public property, but you still have to maintain it if you want to put your house next to it.

@bnys Ahh yes I follow you now. Yea as it currently stands facebook and twitter certainly have the legal authority to censor whoever they wish. but I feel the interpritation and writing of the law should change to vie public social media networks as shared communication media and thus protected under freedom of speech laws in the US.

Even though I dont live in the US I feel that structure of free speech makes the most ethical sense.

@bnys You are misrepresenting my argument (called a strawman fallacy).

I dont mind that people are booing him, I dont mind if you decide to personally block his posts so you dont read it. I dont care if you decide to not watch his show.

None of that however is an argument for someone to have the right to block/censor on a public social media network.As I stated in my original post I view social media with **public registration** the same as the internet in terms of being treated as a shared communication medium (a legal term in several countries). This means that by the same logic that an ISP is not allowed to censor content neither should a public social media network be allowed to censor content.

Censor in this context would mean to eject someone or ther content from the network or to make it so others on the network can view their content, even if they wanted to.

I do however think it should be perfectly legal for individuals to block whoever they wish from their own personal feed.

@bnys Correct, and I would entierly support any court case brought against him that makes a valid case of slander. Though slander is NOT simply saying something untrue no matter how outlandish. It has certain criteria.

For example saying "Bob is a lizzard man" while a complete lie is not considered slander. However if you said "I was talking to bob and he admitted to me he was a lizard man" IS slander.

As far as I know he has said a lot of untrue things but I dont know of a specific case where he committed slander. I'm not saying it never happened, I dont watch his show so its entirely possible. But again that should be for the courts to decide, and therefore does not excuse what ha happened with Alex (which is censorship by a moderator, not through court order).

@cosmicrose Why do you say that? I don't recall Star Wars explicitly stating the sex of any of the droids.

Setting Up the camera for a star hunt together with Jose Ramon at Cachamuiña lake

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Alex Jones is a disgusting human being, with a disgusting message. I in no way support anything he has ever said; I do however support his right to say it.

I also support net neutrality and just as an ISP runs its own private hardware but can not sensor the content over its network (if net neutrality is enforced) I see social media in much the same way, it should be protected from censorship.

10 miles of walking and 2 of biking yesterday. 5 miles walking today plus 2 miles biking plus 45 minutes of open water laps. I am fucking beat, I refuse to move for the rest of the weekend.

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