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@admitsWrongIfProven Not sure, I dont use that feature myself. But I can have our team check it out.

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> I'm a bit concerned if you would extend the right to live in peace to people that cannot make their own fortune, but i don't think you would hate, so i would like to know your thoughts.

In what way did you find this relates to the poem? Not sure where that comes from.

> Lyrics tangled as thoughts, i did not see a clear line of thought. There was achievement, uncertainty, a sense of being alone, trying for sure as you trace the geometry of hearts. But it went another way before i could relate, just like Slayer.

It is meant to show a journey of growth and betterment in the face of tragedy or loss. To walk away a better person from tragedy and seeing that as a victory despite the need for morning.

It is essentially a love poem of a person who invested everything to become a better person for the person they loved and in the end were hurt by them and decided to leave, and instead of dwelling on the heart break, they recognize it but see the growth and journey as ultimately a victory.

@admitsWrongIfProven Fair, ill give you the notes and breakdown I have then and I hope it will help you understand the meaning behind the imagery:

# Narrative Arc & Thematic Fidelity

- Arrival → Reckoning → Departure should be crisp.
The horizon blistered, then brightened— / metal sundered into light succinctly marks the decisive turning point: pain transforming to radiance.

- The closing virtues should remain demonstrated, not lectured; every infinitive in the list has should be pre‑earned by prior action or image, so the final stanza lands as affirmation rather than summary.

# Imagery & Symbol Cohesion

Motif / Function / notes

- Water (waves, tide, river, sea)

Emotional flux, integrity

Now balanced between turbulence and clear emergence (surface true).

- Light (lantern, disciplined light, sundered metal)

Self‑revelation

The “discipline of light” + “surface true” pairing underscores moral vigilance.

- - tone / Shard / Metal

Past wounds, resilience

Stitching shards into a coat is a visually elegant metaphor for carrying scars as craft.

- Lemons

Quiet perseverance, bittersweet forgiveness

Placement only at opening and close keeps the symbol potent.

# Virtues Embodied

- Integrity in darkness & light

“so the dark could witness me no different / than the noon‑bright street.”

- Self‑discipline

old currents of impulse go quiet, not hushed by force but eased by vigilance.

- Uplifting others

hoisting strangers’ mornings on my shoulders.

- Scholarly self‑examination

footnoting apology upon each fracture / forging now a lexicon of healing.

- Setting boundaries

never again accepting iron / masquerading as a kiss.

# Other considerations of flow / meter / imagery

“footnoting apology upon each fracture / forging now a lexicon of healing.”—the enjambment gives breath, and forging adds sonic heft that echoes the upcoming metal imagery.

“its pressure a promise to surface true.”—true carries a moral and optical double meaning; the half‑stressed monosyllable quickens the line’s close.

# Intended emotion resonance

The poem should read as a continuous, controlled surge. Nothing feeling extraneous; yet each stanza should retain room for the reader’s own breath. It should balance lush phrasing and disciplined syntax in order to model the journey from riotous impulse toward mindful strength.

@admitsWrongIfProven

No its ok, dont feel you need to excluded. I appreciate the effort if nothing else.

I'm just asking, do you want an analytical break down of its construction or what? I generally find explaining poems ruin them so I'm just trying not to ruin it for you, otherwise happy to answer any questions.

@admitsWrongIfProven You want an analysis of the poem and what it all means? I mean I have my notes I can always share that explains the imagery and purpose of most of it, but wouldnt that ruin ithe discovery of such things?

@admitsWrongIfProven

No one is inviting anyone to the illuminati. It was started by a Freemasonry lodge a long time ago, but it stop existing a while ago too. It never became the large organization people claim. Freemasonry has always decryed the illuminati and never supported it. It is against our internal rules to give eachother perks like that.

@catsalad @jerry

@Mr_Teatime

No worries, disengaging, and recognizing your own tendency to get triggered and thus perhaps not having a fruitful conversation is a very matrue choice, and I respect that. Should you feel you want to understand my stance at some point you are always welcome back.

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@Mr_Teatime

In dickens time did they have free education and generous welfare system? Stop with the nonsense rhetoric, **no one** here is suggesting we abolish worker protections and minimum wage and call it a day, so the fact you keep harping ont he same loaded language is getting tiring.

What I am proposing is a system of free education and job training **to the extreme** and a good welfare system to help people during the transition. Nothing remotely dickens about it, its about the responsbility being ont he government to create healthy economies and to be the "charity" and not companies, which is how it should be.

As to your question, I have lived in many places from egypt to the USA to the Netherlands, in fact I've lived in most major countries at this point, or at least most regions (europe, asia, americas, etc).I am not against taxes, as I stated before I'm against wasted taxes.. wasting it on minimum wage when it makes the problem **worse** rather than investing it in welfare and education that actually fixes the problem. In the netherlands they actually use their taxes for actual good, it covers (partly) education, it provides decent welfare systems, and that money is spent well on infrastructure and social works. Compare that to the USA where most of the taxes are completely wasted, I dont mind spending the extra money if i see those benefits actually being realized. Now they still waste a **lot**, and their system of minimum wage isnt helping. But overall they arent wasting all of our money on military or walls, so by in large it is spent on tangible things, more so than in the USA at least.

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@Mr_Teatime

> "taxes are immoral and companies must behave like psychopaths"

Considering no one said anything of the sort I would imagine it would bother you, figments of your imagination tend to do that.

When I argued education should be free and cover all levels of education and other forms of skill training (trade schools, educational degrees from bachnlors to PhD, etc) what part of that assumes I am against taxes when surely taxes would need to pay for this.

What I am arguing is instead of acting like true psychopaths and expecting companies to just be so altruistic they just give people money to live off of that is more than they actually earn for the company, that we actually make these people marketable so companies dont **need** to be charities, that they will pay them a living wage because the skills they bring the company is actually worth that living wage. Likewise reducing the number of people in low-paid jobs, thus decreasing the supply and likewise raising their wages out of need.

All of this would still need to be payed for with taxes, but instead of just handing out free money and causing actual **proven** harm to the very people you want to help Im suggesting actually helping them. No one said taxes are immoral, but **wasting** taxes to actually harm the people you are trying to help is.

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