🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@Soretski @truthbait

For reference here is the chart blown out to 1900.

As is very evident now while 2020 certainly had the largest turnout, it fits very nicely with the trend since 1900s of incrreasing turnout year after year.

Remember first thing you do is look at the zoomed out chart, 4 data points is not enough to discern a pattern.

@AlphaKiloPapa

Sorry should have been more clear, I meant the assertion this thread is based on about one-time voters which was not meant literally apparently but to mean "there was a higher than normal turnout" which was true but very different than what was originally said.

@Soretski @truthbait

@Soretski

I didnt demand anything. Now that you explained you didnt actually mean what you were saying and instead just meant "he had an unusually high turnout" I simply agreed with you. The only person insisting on arguing nonsense beyond that is you. I accepted the explanation with no objection.

@truthbait

@AlphaKiloPapa

I take it this is like your other statement. You dont actually know the statistical probability and are just saying it to basically mean "man that seems unusual"?

Given the riots at the time, philly was literally on fire, something i never witnessed in my life, it makes perfect sense to me that we saw a record turnout **on both sides**. What i find strange is that despite there being record turnouts on both sides it is only suggestive of fraud on Biden's side.

@Soretski @truthbait

@Soretski

Fair enough, if you didnt mean what you said literally and were just trying to say that biden got an unusually high popular vote that is higher than what democrats typically have gotten, then sure. I will be happy to grant you that.

That said it isnt particularly compelling on its own as an argument for election fraud, especially since he only ran once, so we have no idea. I mean if that is the argument used one could say the same aboutn Trump, that he got an unusually high popular vote as well compared to past elections.

@truthbait

I hate it, thanks.

@black6 Lets hope this meme goes chiral :)

@Soretski

What does this image have to do with one time voters? I didnt ask anything at all about popular votes or even if the election was a fraud, we didnt even get that far. You stated a fact about one time voters... again, where can i see the source of that fact?

@truthbait

Im such a dork.

@truthbait

I mean hell it doesnt even make sense. This is the first election since then and the votes havent been cataloged yet. How would they even know how many of the voters in 2020 didnt vote in 2024, I wouldnt even expect that information to be available yet.

So again all signs point to completely made up numbers with no real basis in reality. More than happy to see a source and consider it but considering that your crying like a little baby at a question that amounts to "where can i check that fact" tells me all I need to know.

@Soretski

@truthbait

One time voters (someone who votes in one election and doesnt in subsequent) is **not** reported and a quick search only returns first time voters, which is a very different thing.

Clearly im not as smart as you since I cant find the numbers under biden vs trump for **one** time voters...

Its almost like you just made up the numbers and dont even have a source at this point.

@Soretski

@truthbait

Nah, I went into it hoping the numbers would be significant and would be worth discussing. But when you dont compare it to the numbers in other elections you literally are saying nothing of any relevance. I have nothing to even compare to see if its unusual or credible.

I generally assume there is corruption everywhere and most people, are manipulators and idiots, so i would expect election fraud to be very likely. But when i ask for something as simple as the actual numbers so i can evaluate it and i get stupidity cranked up to 11 I am going to quickly dismiss it and move on as i am doing now.

@Soretski

@Soretski

You certainly dont. When you make up numbers you pull from your ass that would be quite the inconvenience for you indeed.

@truthbait

@truthbait

Ahh gotcha, nose citation. I will give the weight your nose as a source deserves, thanks.

@Soretski

@Soretski

You are claiming in other elections there wasnt a single one time voter? That sounds absurdly untrue. Source for that.

@truthbait

@Soretski @truthbait

And what was that number in past and future elections?

@louis

I said harris and not her party for a very good reason. This post is about Harris as a person and her track record of saying one thing and her actions showing another. Between her attack on trans people as the attorny general to her complete lack of action on abortion. Some other person in congress doing something really means very little to me in that context as it says nothing about Harris who as a leader had far more power to bring about an actual abortion amendment and she never even **attempted** it.

@ABScientist

Quite a bit, the vice president is largely focused on internal affairs while the president is largely focused on international affairs.

This is why the vice president is in charge of the senate and has particular power when voting there. Of the two Harris is far more capable of introducing bills as the head of the senate than Biden is.

@KimPerales

Actually Trump and Biden deported approximately the same number of illegal immigrants. In fact it was Obama who deported significantly higher numbers than either of these.

Also under trump more trans people in holding for deportation were given gender affirming care than under Harris, by the numbers (at least according to the source i read when doing some research recently, I dont have it anymore on hand sadly for this fact).