🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@AncientGood I mean the man is the richest person in the world. That may not mean your the smartest person (clearly) but it does mean your the best at making money, we would be lying to ourselves if we did t recognize he has a unique talent, even if he is t a great person.

@chris

Perhaps, neither of which justifies Obama intentionally killing a citizen with no due process and no congressional declaration of war.

@adam

@chris

One certainly could.. bush had the patriot act, Obama murdered a 15 year old us citizen intentionally without due process, Trump is a racist dictator, Biden spent the bulk of his career fighting to keep segregation alive, and now we are back at Trump.

@adam

@chris

I worked for DoD and FEMA at the time of 911. The "truthers" point out valid things. There was a lot of lying and suspicious shit coming out of FEMA. I had to quit in protest of their handling of 911 and lying in their reports.

@adam

@chris

It started looking like the playbook since 911 honestly. It just was a slow process for the USA to fully collapse.

@adam

@chris

Not that I like to use the term Nazi, because a racist wannabe dictator isn't a Nazi. But that is the exact narrative Hitler used to gain power. He had the false flag (the reichstag fire) which he used to make it illegal to be communist (left) and then started firing or arresting his political opponents.

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@chris

Good, this shit is looking a bit too similar to a rising dictators playbook right now.

@adam

@chris

did a little more checking, wondering if as you say Trump **wanted** to get rid of directors. Apparently he cant. Current consitutional law makes it so Trump can not fire agency heads in the executive branch without congressional oversight (must show due cause to congress and have congresses approval). This has been the case since the Supreme court case ruling it to be so sinc 1935... So not sure what his game plan would be.

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@chris

I would think Trump could fire them, not sure what, if any, there is in place to protect them.

The thing is, if they honor their oath in the slightest they wouldnt cooperate. Its a huge security breach to have one person have access to the complete list of federal employees, huge huge. It would be the first thing a dictator would have to do, get the list of everyone, then you can target and force people to cooperate. The whole point of all this security and compartmentalization is specifically this very security risk. So any director that actually lets their department answer, and directs their people to answer, would be putting the USA at risk and violating appropriate security protocols if nothing else.

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@chris

Well Trump isn't the boss of anyone other than the executive branch. So he could fire whole departments in theory but only the ones directly under him. So he would only be weakening his own executive branch by doing so, but sure he could.

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@chris

Who specifically controls the list is ultimately determined by the head of the department, as are the specific procedures for determining what is passed on or not. Typically it's someone close to the leadership like a secretary who approves those requests on company wide lists.

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