SHORT POST ABOUT LONG POSTS
Basically the short version is
People will tend to ignore long posts (for various reasons). Sometimes chicken, sometimes overvaluing their time in constant TL;DR mode.
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LONGER PART ABOUT LONG POSTS
But at same time they might answer short posts with yes no answers never realising how question they have been ask might mean thing differently or answers without checking become cheaper the shorter the discussion is... what isn't discussion is often just authority or ultimatum or avoidance, fear, etc... unless you both know what you are talking about they you might miss points but seem to get the answers.
That's why sometimes you have to ask and work through it (together!). Humanity is not a simple one way only thing and practising also helps others (so no use if you are just goo by yourself or 1 or two people, you'd still have to mingle).
But the short answers *seem* to answer it but don't answer it if it needs depth or is relative in other ways.
@freeschool
Long post are often not worth it. Some people's time is just that much more valuable, it is not about them overvaluing. Also, you seem to be asuming way too much over how people choose to engage.
I recommend using CW on longer post so people may choose to engage with what interest them instead of it having it clog up their screen without warning or way to opt out.
@PiedraFiera Not saying various types of people don't exist or should but I think steadily the mediums we've been using and the original skills we had are decreasing example for others to learn based on what industry cuts out (the money line), even parents (the time they don't have) inside all this txt and more which isn't not enough to bring about training and change, warmth- occasional good examples exist or documentation for stuff but life isn't geared to this to start with (perhaps never was by default coming from more bone-head command and conquer styles of ordering people around)...
so though I could help with CW actually that can make it worse and some people wouldn't see pictures as a result and think it's porn/sensitive material and show even less words that might capture their imagination that reality is different to what they think and a lot more brutal)...
yes the CW title is nice to hide things but the title *isn't enough* sometimes... it's easy not to see the relativity.... a 'SHOW MORE' button would be great which is almost exactly CW basically... sure I'd try it often .... but still the *mentality* I think *of trying* to 'capture' someone's attention is because it's not part of their life (it's been designed out to talk about such things) and almost like teenagers even to pick a perfectly clean apple you just put on the floor is a mental struggle.
So I mean the long is fairly disgusting / distasteful... and maybe I'd rather leave it long for now to show more of the owrds (until show more button is developed as CW hurts me, people mentioned they can't see images so avoid it) but basically until people are actually interested it doesn't matter much what I do they are going to skip it (and skip difficult parts of like) altogether.
I do also consider most people here are coders or into binary type stuff so the social-techno stuff is not their job (literally and not voluntarily going to go into it).
I almost reject what you say about long posts, not be opposite you but think the reality is nearer that *nobody* wants to know those difficult psy-social problems and all those posts (it's too hard to think of solving life by incrementing until you die all that stuff back into better shape) and this is a result of a long line of efficiency cut out by thinking just like Capitalism or authority... "not worth my time" / "not my job"
If you consider things like money and how important it is, the damage / stealing it does, or even how banks are private enterprise running our lives... you can imagine that 'don't look up' or 'it's all a conspiracy thing' perspective is in the same way happening and accumulated to extraordinary ignoring of things.
So my rejection is based on nobody wants to start the long work of working it out. Hardly anyone.
And their time in 'job' and doing more of the same is just similar to banks and not the psychological or listening to others which is basically only going to get progress on longer and more problematic things made from lack of control + lack of consent + power struggles + price increases + lack of talking circles etc...
And to be fair I could also find that the other person listening also starts to scratch their own surface and their own problems and mini-demons might come out (this I think is one main reason people don't go their, they will too get excited / emotional / hyped and have to carry those feelings - FUCK THAT!
just HI, BYE, HAVE A NICE DAY will do for me and society!)
So clogging up people's screen is a proportionate ratio to what people are not doing, otherwise short would be working a whole lot better and we'd be happy as we wouldn't need to explain what the foundations of life all over... or the chains of design and the people actually mismanaging our energy and livelihoods...
they'd rather look at cat pictures - literally. Ok I'm being extreme here but at least an admin or two think money is ok (Stux) and such great people just so far out.
Gargron doesn't see problem with google links or see need to provide auto-embedded alternatives and these are all extreme perhaps or out of context but *in some way* shows how far out you can be but how advanced in other ways (a la society) and that is friggin dangerous / I feel threatened by that when it missed some vital things.
So while some medium-reading is done it's true for others that it's near impossible to do if it isn't in the design currently as whatever is designed goes. And eventually people consider it enough to send something short back like it's doing charity work. I get people who I have conversation with on what they want to talk about and completely dont' say why they don't answer the other mail or msgs and we have a on-going distant relationship like that somehow!!! (!) I guess they know what they like....
Unfortunately I don't think it's humanly enough or that many do the longer work consciously - and so try to take shortcuts with people on every level and can't accept they and others are diarrhea machines and until those main blocks of internal code are sorted, cleared and tested there is accumulation of ignoring things (perhaps partial definition to capitalism is ignoring things / not working on them at all)
I'd like to serve you something further from the above and a lot shorter but I think it's nearer by my observation and current patterns (such as people not making time for things ahead of f-ing up) that things can't be done that way and just the start honeymoon phases are nice... projects start going down at first problematic email etc and people can't even run any distance without collapsing / running away.
@freeschool
I believe you are acting like you are entitled to people's attention and time. Also, if you really feel that "nobody wants to start the long work of working it out" consider that your perception is not all encompassing.
I know for sure there are many anticapitalist movements and efforts. Try hanging out outside your normal sphere, or relating to people differently..
@PiedraFiera I guess you're right I can't see or expect it all and that is just a really obvious thing to say so easy to agree with... of course my perception is limited to what I see or what I've tried which I believe is almost everyone on Mastodon!
There is no normal anymore - everyone is divided / temporarily together until the next tiff.
Everyone reading knows why they are on Mastodon or otherwise, their normal (as in outside world) is totally even more distant so I do speak for myself and others that parents, work colleagues, just about everyone - tried it !
Any more suggestions?
@freeschool
I feel that this implies an expectation to read an entire post even if it is utter garbage that makes no sense and could likely be made intentionally undecipherable.
Shorter posts often get read more because it requires less time to read about something that a consumer might not hold an interest in. Whereas longer posts require more incentive to sacrifice time to potentially suffer mental fatigue throughout.
A well-written presentation could be a significant tool to help make it easier for consumers to follow through walls of text that they would normally pivot away from. There are other possible options that can be utilized, but that's a course in writing and composition and I am not a teacher.