K‮ly‬e @khird@qoto.org

@realcaseyrollins

That's basically what Zorin is I believe.

@design_RG

@freemo suggested something similar a while back:
QT: https://qoto.org/@freemo/102720620029876902

@freemo that sounds more like "independent" than "moderate" to me. Being moderate has to do with avoiding extremes, while being independent has to do with having little loyalty to any particular party.

Then again, it's certainly possible usage in Holland doesn't quite line up with other regions.

@realcaseyrollins

The problem is that the general public can already see your data. SBC members are a subset of that population, so you can't award them less access than they start with. Imagine I text someone a link to your profile, and they open it in a fresh browser window - how do you verify that the unauthenticated visitor is *not* a member of SBC?

This is the same as the original issue they had with QOTO that precipitated all the drama, actually. Our subscribe mechanism reads the RSS feed, which anybody can do, so there isn't a way they can stop us from accessing that data.

@freemo Note also that the mod originally involved has since made threats of suicide, but it is not known if those threats were carried out.

@freemo

I believe the following have occurred, based on skimming the relevant threads:
- sunbeam's hosting provider warned them about doxing
- the instance admin demoted the mod for this and other reasons
- the instance admin expressed an intent to leave the server
- discussions have begun to determine whether sunbeam will continue under new management or pull the plug

I suggest delaying a decision on defederating until the new management, if any, makes its position known.

@snow There used to be via regex filtering but I believe that option was removed.

@freemo @design_RG admin is a step up from mod, right? Has anyone tried getting in touch with the actual admin and getting him to clamp down on his rogue mod?

@freemo

Keep in mind that gab is known to tolerate some forms of doxing and defederating from them will likely be interpreted as a political manoeuvre.

@freemo

For the sake of correctness, I'll note that it's "sunbeam.city" rather than "sunbeamcity.com".

@freemo Are quarantine/defederate synonyms for silence/suspend?

@snow

Some ideas:
- Try posting at different times of day. Not everyone is in the same timezone as you.
- Post about STEM subjects, or go to an instance tailored to what you want to discuss.
- Look at which hashtags are popular to see what topics might be interesting to a wider audience.
- Go back and delete your "if you like X, don't talk to me" posts.
- Participate in other threads to advertise your presence so others know to follow you.

Seconding @design_RG, good luck!

@design_RG Yeah we sure have had an increase in posts formatted like this, which tend not to spark conversation. Very much low-effort content.

Title of Blog Post

http://example.com/title-of-blog-post

@Christianrising

As an acronym, it stands for "science, technology, engineering, math" and is a category of fields of study.

@TatsuyaIshida

The actual signs when you enter the state say, "Virginia is for lovers," which I think is hilariously appropriate here.

@freemo

Fortunately, reading through that, he seems to be rather more level-headed than the instigators of the complaint.

@realcaseyrollins

> Why don't all the Nazis just make a Nazi instance and go there so we can block it?

They want to maximise eyeballs reached, even if they aren't friendly eyeballs. Favourable responses seed them with further hostility, slogans, etc., and provide reinforcement of a sort. But even unfavourable responses just strengthen their persecution complex and make them that much more fanatical. Their audience is larger when people find it difficult to block them or refrain from doing so to avoid collateral damage.

I think this is the reason for the scorched-earth approach other instances are taking. Just like fire needs fuel and air, ideologues need both a stage and an audience. To stop the marketplace of ideas from burning down, you can remove one ingredient or the other to disrupt the conflagration. Local mods can deprive bad actors of a stage, but if they don't, remote instances will deny them an audience.

@Ajz@mastodon.nl Some parents tell their children the "sandman" does the same, and the dried rheum they find in their eyes in the morning is actually the sand he leaves there. It is a bit like telling young children that babies arrive by stork - people will generally be familiar with the trope although it is less common than it once was.

@realcaseyrollins

Actually, this looks like a good argument for a new feature - when a mod closes a report, give him a checkbox that says, "This post has been fully examined and found to comply with our terms; reject future reports against it." Then the complainants can continue to file reports but they are silently dropped before landing in the queue.