Louis Couture 🏳️‍🌈 @louiscouture@qoto.org

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@freemo and also what I said was how are you sure that free market capitalism will inevitably make such a crisis that people can’t afford their homes.

@freemo welfare can exist under capitalism (aka mixed economies) but it cannot exist under free market capitalism, because it requires government intervention in the economy.

@freemo welfare is not free market, and even with welfare, you might not be able to afford a home, heck, people can’t afford rent even while having jobs

@freemo so free markets capitalism can’t make it so EVERYONE can have a home.
Thanks for the clarification

@freemo why are you acting like somehow it will happen for a certainty

@freemo again nobody is getting bankrupt from that investment. No banks would give a loan to someone who don’t think they could repay. And it’s just false to say that people would not build homes otherwise because the market fail sometimes and it doesn’t stop people from buying stocks and investing in the economy

@freemo how come the state is able to provide everyone housing but private landlords can't.

It's not that they can't make money renting to regular people, it's because they want to make more money by holding homes in hostage.

@freemo I think you believe that a house costs so much to take care of thatit would bankrupt landlords if we forced them to provide affordable prices for renting. It is not true, social housing is a thing in many countries and no one goes bankrupt.

@freemo wait regular people people can afford homes in capitalist systems?

Weird, I thought if we forced landlords to lower their prices so people could afford it then nobody would build homes because it wouldn't be worth it economically

@freemo: well if your economic system requires that only rich people can get homes then it is a bad economic system, and communist countries like cuba where no one is even homeless, already outperforms them.

@freemo: There is something fundamentally flawed in your analysis and it's the fact that you think that the capitalist concept of property value is somehow relevant. It really is not. You see, for most people, a house isn't some kind of speculative asset that they use to buy and sell in order to augment their wealth. It is a necessity for them to live. As long as there isn't enough houses for everyone to live in, it will be a good investment to build some because you can be sure people live in i

@freemo: seized property 2/2

@freemo: the government can totally force you to sell your stocks if it wants to. That's called nationalization. People who invests in stuff that can be essential know there is a risk in the government getting involved. And if they have money to buy homes like that, they probably will turn out fine. And really what is unfair : that people get to be homeless because rich people are seizing property as a way to make money and drive up the price or rich people losing their investment on such 1/2

@freemo: and putting yourself in debt for investment is definitively not a good thing to do

@freemo: well if nobody can pay, then it's indeed at your loss. Just like the stock market, investments have risk and as a buyer you have to accept those risks