Lup Yuen Lee 李立源 @lupyuen@qoto.org

@lupyuen I wonder if they have checked https://theia-ide.org/

@loke @lupyuen I agree - I have enjoyed the PHP-fractal-of-bad-design post without feeling that all PHP's users are idiots - that's clearly not true, as it is not true that you can't build something impressive with it (Facebook, though I don't like it, is impressive, for one!). It might be considered to be toxic against the devs, but I'm not even totally convinced about that. I quite enjoy humorous criticism not directed at a person but at a thing or idea

@lupyuen So the history of C and C++ interaction might not be up for discussion today.

@loke @lupyuen i was getting a bit of that, but definitely there's a thread of "this language is bad and you should feel bad for using it/liking it" that is pretty awful.

@lupyuen The article implies that criticising a language means that you suggest the users are idiots.

That seems like a strange assumption to make. There are plenty of languages that are bad, and every single language out there have aspects that are terrible. Surely one must be allowed to point that out.

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I love BASH!

@lupyuen The more modern #gemini protocol (also mentioned in the article) is probably the more relevant one these days.

Personally I don't think it hits then sweet spot, but anyhow it's good to have some counterbalance to the bloatweb around.