+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
was shopping earlier today, overheard a customer talking to an employee about "we'll do [idk what..] with the unvaccinated", both laughing.
shit is turning ugly quick and people don't even see it. it's amazing and frightening to watch.
i'm near the point of "fingers crossed for omicron hitting the vaccinated hard" to have the bullshit stop. maybe ADE is real after all.
sucks if people get ill of course, but if this general mood in the population continues we'll have good old lynchings next xmas :/
@bonifartius if you have the guts, go talk to those people and figure out what's up. Otherwise your "omg I crawled out of my cave and barely heard a voice for the first time in years and I'm scared" alarmist BS doesn't do anything but add fuel to whatever fires might or might not be burning. People lost close friends and family to this pandemic and you are here now wishing and praying "it hits them hard again". "awww it sucks for you, but I hope it happens again so you learn your lesson"(which is what exactly by the way? you tried you failed haha!), what a freaking hero!
@Eris thanks for enlightening us, point being? "I decree that nobody died last time, and I hope they die next time?" Or are you just jerking a knee.
@Eris can you even read? I just accepted your premise in the last message... please read...
@AR-15 oh no! did I break your heart by appearing dishonest my dear?
@Eris I'm so sorry I'm so broken, to be able to accept one's premise in an argument is a horrible mental illness I know. Thank you for your concern.
You condescendingly used a strawman version of my premise to argue against me.
That is not accepting the premise, it is rejecting it with extra steps.
Here's a hint: If you do not agree with a premise, you do not accept it.
Do you agree or disagree? Choose one, they are mutually exclusive.
@AR-15 I don't care to be nice yo you, I'm sorry again if I heart your feelings, you can block me or mute me or whatever
Argue your point. Stop arguing about whether or not you're arguing. This is just silly.
Every time I have asked him a direct question he has refused to answer it.
@AR-15 If you want to see my argument it's in my reply to OP, and in my first reply to Eris. Past that it's Eris pretending that I'm arguing something I'm not arguing.
>Past that it's Eris pretending that I'm arguing something I'm not arguing.
What am I pretending you are arguing?
@Eris that your first reply ever in this thread is false
> that your first reply ever in this thread is false
So you agree that there was/is no pandemic?
@Eris Sorry for delaying your satisfaction, you just demand it so many times, that's it getting really boring. Yes as I have said many times before, for the purposes if this discussion I'm having with you, I agree.
>Yes as I have said many times before, for the purposes if this discussion I'm having with you, I agree.
So you don't actually agree.
So you disagree.
@Eris As far as you should be concerned I agree, but for some reason you are more concerned. Are you in love?
> As far as you should be concerned I agree
What does this even mean? Do you, or don't you?
I concern myself with actual reality, so please tell me the actual reality.
@Eris You are getting rather philosophical now... once again I couldn't care less
>I couldn't care less
>cares enough to shitpost for an hour
Sure, Jan.
@Eris @AR-15 @bonifartius
It's bizarre how people today have reached a point where not caring is a good thing.
@akorenchkin I care to watch you thoroughly embarrass yourselves, I don;t care to refute the particular assertion, that you keep pretending that I'm trying to refute.
@Eris @AR-15 @bonifartius
> I don;t care to refute the particular assertion, that you keep pretending that I'm trying to refute.
Why did you join a discussion thread if you refuse to engage in any discussion?
@Eris oh I didn;t know you were the OP, sorry for derailing your thread @akorenchkin @AR-15 @bonifartius
Bro I embarrass myself everyday.
And yet here I am, at a water filtration plant waiting for a filter backwash retention tank to empty.
@Eris @AR-15 @bonifartius
If you think I'm stupid, that's good, that's the beginning of all good discussions.
Now tell me WHY I'm stupid!
Any meaningful discussion runs a risk of him being wrong, which is a risk he is unwilling to take.
What is it that you are arguing then? Because you seem to think we're retarded and you clearly don't like us. I'm begging you, please say "my point is: ___." Stop doing this meta abstraction bullshit. It just makes you sound like you're hoping you'll make yourself sound smart (you're not) and confuse us into saying you were right, and it sounds like you're doubling down because you really don't want to have an actual argument, you just want to jelq your midwit IQ.
@AR-15 Here is a direct quotr from my reply to OP
> People lost close friends and family to this pandemic and
the thorn in all of your sides, that will torment you till the end of days... not let me blow your minds... simply remove it (the exactly text I pasted here) from my reply... the point still stands... if you can't see it all I can tell you is "learn to read", I'm sorry again for hurting your feelings
"Here is a vague allusion to what my point is and a condescending comment about how you are insufficiently smart to read my mind, rather than just a clear unambiguous statement of my position"
Stop doing this.
@Eris I wrote it down... do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
>do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
I want you to type a single sentence that clearly tells me what the fuck you are trying to say.
@Eris I did it in my first reply, and now also clarified that the thing you are so hung up on, is so inconsequential to it that you can literally remove it, can you do a basic edit, and re read it? Or will you keep playing dumb forever?
@AR-15 @bonifartius
> Or will you keep playing dumb forever?
Here's an idea: Assume I'm not playing, and just actually answer the questions I ask you
@Eris I answered all question you asked me to the best of my ability, I can't help that you refuse to read.
>I answered all question you asked me to the best of my ability,
I asked "Was there a pandemic, yes or no?" Four separate times and I still don't know your answer.
@Eris for the purposes of my conversation with you I said no since the very beginning. Now if you are asking me as the all knowing god, the barer of truth to bestow upon you the salvation you seek... wrong number...
@Eris I'm telling you that in the context of the OP it is irrelevant, and I'm not here to satisfy your curiosity. You may have already inferred my disposition, that will suffice.
@AR-15 @bonifartius
>in the context of the OP it is irrelevant,
I have no clue what this means.
>and I'm not here to satisfy your curiosity.
When you join a discussion, you are here to satisfy the curiosity of others in the discussion. Tell us what you think so we can discuss it.
Otherwise why are you talking at all?
@Eris I replyied to OP to talk about the OP with the OPer. I reply to you to talk to you about how you can't read.
@AR-15 @bonifartius
>You may have already inferred my disposition, that will suffice.
It will not.
You never did
>you have to edit my words to find out what I meant because I'm not going to tell you!
Ok
@AR-15 I asked yo edit the part that you are hung up on to demonstrate how inconsequential it is, to the main point. I wrote what I mean, if you are too lazy to scroll up I'll link.
@Eris @bonifartius
>to demonstrate how inconsequential it is, to the main point. I
But it's not inconsequential to the main point. Your entire point falls apart without it.
@Eris please explain how, I'm all ears @AR-15 @bonifartius
Here is the best, most charitable version of your argument I can present. This is commonly called "steelmanning," the opposite of strawmanning.
"Many people have died from this pandemic, and that makes your statement immoral."
What is before the , is a premise, and what is after it is a conclusion.
If we cut out the premise, the conclusion stops being true.
@AR-15 If there is absolutely nothing you can latch on to to ask a question or present an argument, I can't help you. If you ask me to write the same thing again I'll write it the same way.
We have asked many clarifying questions in direct and explicit language and you have refused to answer a single one of them.
The time for questioning is over. Now it is time for demands.
Post receipts you slithering disingenuous kike or apologize to OP.
We want death certificates, autopsies, photos of the deceased within two degrees of separation from you. And fuck off with the reheated copypasta from your freshman rhetoric text.
