+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
was shopping earlier today, overheard a customer talking to an employee about "we'll do [idk what..] with the unvaccinated", both laughing.
shit is turning ugly quick and people don't even see it. it's amazing and frightening to watch.
i'm near the point of "fingers crossed for omicron hitting the vaccinated hard" to have the bullshit stop. maybe ADE is real after all.
sucks if people get ill of course, but if this general mood in the population continues we'll have good old lynchings next xmas :/
@bonifartius if you have the guts, go talk to those people and figure out what's up. Otherwise your "omg I crawled out of my cave and barely heard a voice for the first time in years and I'm scared" alarmist BS doesn't do anything but add fuel to whatever fires might or might not be burning. People lost close friends and family to this pandemic and you are here now wishing and praying "it hits them hard again". "awww it sucks for you, but I hope it happens again so you learn your lesson"(which is what exactly by the way? you tried you failed haha!), what a freaking hero!
@Eris thanks for enlightening us, point being? "I decree that nobody died last time, and I hope they die next time?" Or are you just jerking a knee.
@Eris can you even read? I just accepted your premise in the last message... please read...
@AR-15 oh no! did I break your heart by appearing dishonest my dear?
@Eris I'm so sorry I'm so broken, to be able to accept one's premise in an argument is a horrible mental illness I know. Thank you for your concern.
You condescendingly used a strawman version of my premise to argue against me.
That is not accepting the premise, it is rejecting it with extra steps.
Here's a hint: If you do not agree with a premise, you do not accept it.
Do you agree or disagree? Choose one, they are mutually exclusive.
@Eris learn english? @AR-15 @bonifartius
@AR-15 I don't care to be nice yo you, I'm sorry again if I heart your feelings, you can block me or mute me or whatever
Argue your point. Stop arguing about whether or not you're arguing. This is just silly.
@AR-15 If you want to see my argument it's in my reply to OP, and in my first reply to Eris. Past that it's Eris pretending that I'm arguing something I'm not arguing.
What is it that you are arguing then? Because you seem to think we're retarded and you clearly don't like us. I'm begging you, please say "my point is: ___." Stop doing this meta abstraction bullshit. It just makes you sound like you're hoping you'll make yourself sound smart (you're not) and confuse us into saying you were right, and it sounds like you're doubling down because you really don't want to have an actual argument, you just want to jelq your midwit IQ.
@AR-15 Here is a direct quotr from my reply to OP
> People lost close friends and family to this pandemic and
the thorn in all of your sides, that will torment you till the end of days... not let me blow your minds... simply remove it (the exactly text I pasted here) from my reply... the point still stands... if you can't see it all I can tell you is "learn to read", I'm sorry again for hurting your feelings
"Here is a vague allusion to what my point is and a condescending comment about how you are insufficiently smart to read my mind, rather than just a clear unambiguous statement of my position"
Stop doing this.
@Eris I wrote it down... do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
>do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
I want you to type a single sentence that clearly tells me what the fuck you are trying to say.
@Eris I did it in my first reply, and now also clarified that the thing you are so hung up on, is so inconsequential to it that you can literally remove it, can you do a basic edit, and re read it? Or will you keep playing dumb forever?
@AR-15 @bonifartius
You never did
>you have to edit my words to find out what I meant because I'm not going to tell you!
Ok
@AR-15 I asked yo edit the part that you are hung up on to demonstrate how inconsequential it is, to the main point. I wrote what I mean, if you are too lazy to scroll up I'll link.
@Eris @bonifartius
@Eris please explain how, I'm all ears @AR-15 @bonifartius
Here is the best, most charitable version of your argument I can present. This is commonly called "steelmanning," the opposite of strawmanning.
"Many people have died from this pandemic, and that makes your statement immoral."
What is before the , is a premise, and what is after it is a conclusion.
If we cut out the premise, the conclusion stops being true.
@AR-15 If there is absolutely nothing you can latch on to to ask a question or present an argument, I can't help you. If you ask me to write the same thing again I'll write it the same way.
We have asked many clarifying questions in direct and explicit language and you have refused to answer a single one of them.
The time for questioning is over. Now it is time for demands.
Post receipts you slithering disingenuous kike or apologize to OP.
We want death certificates, autopsies, photos of the deceased within two degrees of separation from you. And fuck off with the reheated copypasta from your freshman rhetoric text.
@AR-15 Which part didn't make sense to you? There was a non trivial amount. @Eris @bonifartius
>Which part didn't make sense to you?
The part where you clearly think there was a pandemic and then for some reason spent 2 hours arguing that you actually think there wasn't.
@AR-15 I'm said many times that for the purpose of this discussion you may assume that I think there is no pandemic. This is part of me trying to explain to you the original point. But you are not willing to try to understand the original point. All you want is for me to say what you want me to say and argue with you about what you want me to argue with you about. And i couldn't care less about that particular thing.
And yes, I want you to argue with me about what you came here to argue about. I don't want you to argue about whether or not you are arguing or whether your arguments are arguments.
>I don't want you to argue about whether or not you are arguing or whether your arguments are arguments.
Yeah, this.
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@AR-15 in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda, but then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read, and are hell bent on arguing with an imaginary opponent that you want me to play the role of. Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
@Eris @bonifartius
>in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda,
My agenda is to point out how disingenuous and psychotic that "roast" is.
>ut then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read,
That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.
>Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.
>That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.
I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.
>Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.
I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.
>I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.
No you just keep saying "I pointed it out" without ever doing so.
>I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.
I will tell you when you have answered it.
@Eris
>I will tell you when you have answered it
exactly my point
>exactly my point
Your point is that I want you to clarify yourself to me?
Good, that is also my point.
@Eris no that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say, your friend AR-15 has even clarified what exactly you want me to say, and that nothing else will satisfy you
>that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say,
...Yes? That's how being satisfied works?
@Eris So you want me to just role play someone I'm not and not to say what I think, glad we established that. I will not though.
"What is in the cabinet?"
"The thing in the cabinet."
"Yes, but what is it?"
"The thing in the cabinet."
@Eris It is written can you not read? If you can tell me what exactly is confusing to you, minding the edit that I suggested to clarify my point.
>So you want me to just role play someone I'm not and not to say what I think
No, the exact opposite of that.
What we want, what will satisfy us, is if you say what you think.
We are dying to know.
@Eris I told it multiple times, that for the purposes of this conversation I accepted your premise, and otherwise I couldn't care less, but you will never be satisfied, unless I say exactly what you want to hear, almost word per word.
@AR-15 @bonifartius
>I'm said many times that for the purpose of this discussion you may assume that I think there is no pandemic.
I don't want to assume, I want to ask. Do you think there was a pandemic?
>12 minutes have passed and no reply
I really wanted to have a real argument. Victory is hollow when the opponent doesn't even show up.
@AR-15 All of those revolved around a part I asked you to edit out, to clarify how inconsequential it is to my point. Any other questions?
>to demonstrate how inconsequential it is, to the main point. I
But it's not inconsequential to the main point. Your entire point falls apart without it.