namark @namark@qoto.org

@Eris "if you see that as an issue, this is what you should do", is not agreeing that's an issue, and I'm getting tired explaining meaning of rudimentary words and concepts to you

@tripu

@Eris because I don't care about that specific assertion, and that's another thing you can't get over. I don't care if it's possible or impossible, but that is incomprehensible to you.

@tripu

@Eris the problem was presented by the OP, I presented an explanation of the problems, but alas you didn't read the OP.

@tripu

@Eris my response to your assertion is above it basically goes "ok, nice religion", you are the only one who has a problem past that point.

@tripu

@Eris

> No, but it contradicts you and your argument.
It doesn't contradict me because I presented the theorem and nothing else, but you can't get over it.

@tripu

@Eris endlessly repeating assertions is not an argument

@tripu

@Eris because it's impossible to argue with an assertion

@tripu

@Eris now you are playing word games to save your skin...
if A then B, is not an assertion/opinion on B

contradicting A does not contradict the theorem once again

@tripu

@Eris if a then b, is not an opinion it's a theorem. Contradicting a is not contradicting the theorem. You will never learn english will you?

@tripu

@Eris Elaboration of the assertion is not an explanation of it's logic. You must start with one of the presented premises ideally, present deduction and a conclusion you want to draw someone's attention to. All you do repeat the same assertion over and over again.

@tripu

@Eris Your simple comment was acknowledged as your opinion and belief, but you couldn't let it go, and being unable to present any logical arguments of your own, resorted to asserting that I hold the opposite opinion and belief, when I expressed no opinions or beliefs in my reply that have anything to do with your assertion.

@tripu

@tripu ignore @Eris's derailings, read my original reply and address the points I've made. Or be like Eris and keep asserting the opposite of the conclusion as a religious fanatic.

@Eris tell that to yourself, cause there is literally nothing else in the whole thread that claims anything to be possible or impossible.

@tripu

@Eris
> I do that.
you commented on the defeat the culture part, which was a concluding summary. If that's what you wish to comment on one must assume that up to that point you agreed with the presented. If not than at least point out the first thing you disagree with, otherwise you arguing against a basic logical deduction with an assertion. Mind you an assertion even if directed at the specific is still not a logical argument, but it you are precise it might help me figure out what hidden secrets of your glorious mind you're so incapable of expressing directly.
If you have problem with the premise of issues in the OP, that has nothing to do with what I wrote, so take it up with the OP directly, instead of quoting me and pretending I said things I didn't say.

> What? How?
because logic 101, proving the impossibility of a precondition does not render the theorem illogical. You are the only one in this thread who is concerned to prove anything impossible. There is an implicit assumption that everything that is not definitively proven impossible is possible, and that is just eating you up inside it seems, and so far you appear to be unable to do anything about it other that asserting you beliefs.

> Bro you seem to have a lot of pent up aggression. I have been perfectly reasonable in this thread and you're mad for some reason. Calm down.
I'm referring to our previous discussion, because you're mirroring it here in your behavior. It literally doesn't matter what you are talking about you just do the same thing, so I feel the need to jump ahead and speed things up. You also exhibited a tendency to repeat the same assertions over and over again, so it really helps push ahead and cut to chase. But yeah sure I'm so angry, omg, I'm about to make death treats, oooh, just you wait!

@tripu

@Eris
> Yes, but what if I don't?
You state which part specifically you find illogical. Instead of waving in the general direction and saying I'm wrong about something things I never even said.
Defeat the culture and the things OP considers issues, will no longer be issues. I don't care whether the culture is possible or impossible to defeat. Even if you have a definitive prove it would only be tangential to the discussion.

> I am. I am also taking it up with you.
Yes you are taking it up with the whole world, but there is nothing else you care about, including reading what others write.

> Sorry, have we met?
yes I do have memory, unfortunately...
also
> you are condenseending
> oh sorry, i forgot you existed

> Even if I do, you pretend I don't and insist that I'm being unreasonable. It's very odd.
keep asserting

@tripu

@Eris

> This isn't an opinion?

How is that an opinion? If you agree with everything else I postulated there you have to agree with that lemma, otherwise you are free to point out where you see logical contradictions. The lemma is presented as relevant to the OP.

> Because the things you call "issues" are not issues

take it with the OP, unless once again you are going to completely ignore them to wedge your own unrelated agenda into the thread.

> You have such a dismissive and condescending attitude. I would love to tell you why I am right, but you don't seem to want to listen.

With statements so bold, you have to stater with the why, otherwise you are the one condescending.

OP: post bajilion articles with more text tan you ever read in your entire life on any one thing
me: responds with a freaking short essay
you: short assertion
me: oh let me guess... this is why?
you: no my assertion is true because it's true
me: ok, to each their own
you: no, I'm right
me: why, again?
you: you don't deserve an explanation! reeeee

@tripu

@Eris In the same way that explanation is different from an assertion.

Are you going to get apeshit again if I open your eyes to the fact that I expressed no opinion in this tread? I simply explained that men face the presented practical disadvantages of life disproportionately because of cultural oppression of women.

Then you barrage in and screech that no solution compatible with the existence of humanity exists. why? how? I mean who cares? All that matters is that you are right!

@tripu

@Eris what? I can't argue against your religion so I turned back to @tripu. you keep on asserting, ftw!

@tripu if you needed a demonstration of how it can turn into a religion... not that @Eris here is particularity clever about it, or representative of anything, but well I'll take it...

@Eris right, cause we live in stone age... no wait, we WILL live in stone age, once you're done with your world war 3 plans...

@tripu