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@wizzwizz4 @lamp @foxhkron

Ah, thanks, I couldn't easily find what train that referred to. This seems to indicate that one way or the other the value for the train is surely its capacity and not typical load.

That sadly makes this comparison dishonest. :(

@GundelPundel Ich denke, es gibt ein wichtiger Unterschied: Leute, die hier kommen, haben es vor zu bleiben, und nicht nur kurzfristig zu besuchen. Vergleichbar wäre, wenn jemand irgendwo umzieht und dortige Sachen beklagt.

@koherecoWatchdog @mikarv @aral

rfc-editor is the first search result for rfc3339 on google, ddg and second on bing. I don't think it's hard to find at all.

If you go to rfc-editor.org/about/, you will see that the entity that runs the site claims some amount of officiality. I already mentioned that in a previous comment.

I think that picking an example that it at best threadbare and at worst false is doing your goal a disservice: it casts doubt on any other statements that cloudflare is unavoidable.

This is my last message on this thread.

@koherecoWatchdog @mikarv @aral

You said that it's hard to fetch RFCs without involving CloudFlare. I pointed out that it's not so. I don't get what are you trying to argue for anymore.

@koherecoWatchdog @aral @mikarv

I'm saying that there's an obvious and even official way to get rfcs that doesn't involve cloudflare. I have no clue what does the www.rfc-editor.org website _itself_ do.

@koherecoWatchdog @mikarv @aral

```
$ host www.rfc-editor.org
www.rfc-editor.org has address 50.223.129.200
www.rfc-editor.org has IPv6 address 2001:559:c4c7::106
```

This doesn't seem to be behind cloudflare and seems to contain all ietf rfcs. I don't really understand the organisational structure there, but I don't see why www.ietf.org should be considered more canonical than this.

@landley What's the pipe made out of? An old way of thawing metal pipes was to pass a current through them.

@koherecoWatchdog @mikarv @aral

The problem with various standards that are part of law is worse: their redistribution is restricted or outright forbidden (via copyright).

@AustinB @mikarv

This is sadly not the case with building code in many countries (since at least 15ish years in case of Poland).

@koherecoWatchdog @aral @mikarv

Can RFCs not be reproduced and mirrored arbitrarily?

@bagder It might be useful to add that to the examples, to avoid very confusing outcomes for readers (correct URLs, but `#1` not matching the correct thing).

@wizzwizz4 @lamp @foxhkron

Is 1k people also the expected fill rate of a train, or its capacity?

@imikla @Extra_Special_Carbon @whyJoe @daniel @Polychrome

Does it have false positive rates that make it usable in the "scan a crowd to find matches _with a large set of people_" setting? This has stringer requirements than authentication usecases, where we usually trying to match against _one_ person.

@bagder Don't you need to quote those url patterns, to avoid shell substitution of `{a,b,c}`?

@rysiek @jared

You don't need to append the suffix, just use standard negotiation via Accept:

```
curl -H 'Accept: application/rss+xml' 'mstdn.social/tags/Browsers'
```

So, you don't need to add the `.rss` when instructing an RSS reader to fetch a feed.

@glyph I was surprised by how many of the things I thought of it does.

The site claims that cloud features are "optional". Do you know what that means exactly?

@glyph

> So does (let ((whatever …))), albeit temporarily.

Ouch. Yes, this explains the terribleness about Emacs.

However, I still don't see how this is caused by assuming that nothing is buggy. Even if all code is bugless, this environment makes for a terrible interface; did you mean to say that they are assuming all code is bugless, regardless of how complicated the boundary conditions are made (and thus they don't make them simple)?

@filippo @mastohost

Do you know what inboxes they're delivering to (you say that you can't easily see what is being delivered, but am not sure about this)? If so, seeing if those inboxes are weird in some way (or trying to deliver ~anything to them by hand) might be _a_ starting point.

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