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@EubieDrew @freemo

Do you want to compare "subscribe and stuff posts in home" vs "subscribe and stuff posts in a list", or "subscribe and stuff posts in a list" vs something that doesn't involve subscribe?

@EubieDrew

With some amount of projection: I think ease of tinkering is maximized if you basically get an x86_64 VM and manage Linux (I assume) that's running there yourself.

I'm not sure why you prefer dedicated machine over a VM (or did you mean over shared hosting?). VMs are much cheaper and for small experimental things not much worse, if at all.

When looking at VM providers pay attention to how they charge for network throughput. Charging for it is quite common (as opposed to charging for "an X Mbps link upstream", for some definition thereof). Charging more for traffic outward is also common. Sometimes this can dominate the price of the whole thing.

I have a VM at Hetzner that costs me on the order of magnitude of $5 per month. (If you wanted to run all the things you described you might need more RAM and thus pay 10ish$/mo? I'm not sure.) It works, the network traffic accounting is reasonable, but I haven't tried the competition.

One thing that does not meet your requirements for hosting (it's shared hosting only), but (a) might be a good place to use to register your domains/set up DNS/set up a small static site for w/e reason/... (b) rubs me in the correct direction as far as the way they treat customers go[*], is nearlyfreespeech.net.

Lastly, the hardest thing of all that you've described is hosting e-mail. You might wish to know that there are many hybrid approaches to e-mail hosting (e.g. proxying outgoing mail through someone who can authenticate "you" and trusts "you" enough to proxy).

[*] the concept of "we don't run loss leaders", "let the user decide what kind of security against them being impersonated they want", ...

@EubieDrew

BTW your post is unlisted, so it doesn't appear is "global" timelines. I'm not sure if you intended that.

@EubieDrew

You did specify approximate minimal requirements, but I don't see what you want to optimize for. Cost? Ease of tinkering? Ease of use while avoiding tinkering? Something else?

Have you considered hosting it in your office/kitchen/...? Why/why not?

@emersion @filippo

Would you mind verbosifying your sigh? I see the linked answer as at least somewhat reasonable, and would want to be convinced otherwise if there are arguments that would change my mind.

@pamela

Do you think it makes sense to distinguish between personal website and blog? If so, when roughly would you place the beginning of blogs?

@lauren Are you talking about UX or about UX and conceptual distance?

@mariusor @filippo

> I definitely agree that robots.txt is not the way to convey the limitations of a source forge.

I don't see why it's not the correct place to state that one does not wish non-human-initiated traffic. If I understand the situation correctly, the whole issue is about traffic that's not initiated by a request to proxy.golang.org.

@filippo

I do not want to take any position on how reasonable any of the people involved are.

On the subject itself, what I think no one questioned (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that:
- the rate of automated fetches could be lower without any/any significant loss of desirable outcomes,
- the mirror doesn't have a way to not do automated fetches for all sourcehut instances without an actual person being told about each one.

If I'm correct in both, this looks really weird in light of behaviour of Google Search, which tries somewhat hard to adapt its rate to the site in question (support.google.com/webmasters/), obeys robots.txt, and does distinguish between crawl traffic and user-initiated traffic (e.g. previews for websites in chat).

@mikolaj@chaos.social @baldur

IMO the ability of chatgpt to write passable essays is a very good demonstration that grading essays does not grade ability to reason/knowledge/anything else other than writing essays.

I hope (but don't expect) that this will convince people that grading essays is not a useful thing to do.

I don't see how spying on students' computers would help here at all: after all, they can just retype the essay reading it from a different machine/a phone/from audio.

@lcamtuf

> the revolution is likely to happen even if Microsoft Clippy 2.0 occasionally makes a mistake or two

The current state of chatgpt in that regard is IMO terrible (I tried to ask it a couple of simple questions about mathematics and on more than half it responded with something blatantly nonsensical).

The way we deal with that problem today (after all, search engines do give lots of results that are just nonsense or false) is that we rely on being able to find more takes from different people on the Internet (and/or verify the reasoning they present).

So, why should solving this somehow else be easier than solving the "let's get more true and useful statements" problem (i.e. destruction of sources of new "content")?

@aral

I don't see how this argument relies on any property that's specific to privacy (as opposed to other desirable properties). Do you think privacy is special in that way, or that this applies to most similar properties too?

Random examples of properties that could be substituted for privacy and where I'm not sure whether they satisfy the conclusion: "net neutrality for phones" (ability to call anyone, regardless of their phone operator) or non-monopoly-inducing ticket prices on transit (a company can e.g. offer tickets at a price sublinear in distance, so that people will be disincentivized from combining different transit companies in one trip).

@domi

XDG base dirs spec says they should be ignored (" All paths set in these environment variables must be absolute. If an implementation encounters a relative path in any of these variables it should consider the path invalid and ignore it."), but obviously not everyone follows it.

@athousandcateaus @domi

I would consider it more likely that someone didn't realize that a path is not going to be shell escaped in some configuration (but that might be biased by the kinds of linux setups I see or run).

@domi I'm surprised that relative paths are allowed there (i.e. not ignored).

Do Swiss courts really consider multiple unrelated charges against one fellow at the same time?

> Dem Beschuldigten wird vorgeworfen, vom betagten Geschädigten im Laufe mehrerer Jahre unter wahrheitswidrigen Angaben mehrfach Darlehen in der Höhe von insgesamt mehreren hundert Tausend Franken erhältlich gemacht zu haben. Weiter wird dem Beschuldigten vorgeworfen, einen Einzahlungsbeleg der Post abgeändert zu haben, um die Zahlung eines höheren Betrags vorzutäuschen. Zudem wird dem Beschuldigten vorgeworfen, auf der Autobahn rechts überholt zu haben sowie während der Pandemie gegen die Schutzmassnahmen verstossen zu haben, indem er eine Party organisiert habe.

-- gerichte-zh.ch/verhandlungen/o

(Translated summary: The accused is accused of defrauding an elderly person, falsification of documents to further that fraud, overtaking on the right on the highway, and organising a party during the time it was forbidden by pandemic-related restrictions.)

(Or did that fellow make a very weird appeal that somehow was relevant to all of them? I can't see a way to do so other than sovcitry.)

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@paco

This vaguely reminds me of the cases when someone finds it hard to get representation, because something caused most lawyers in the area to acquire a conflict of interest. (In the stories I've heard it's usually inflicted by other party, so it's only a vague resemblance.)

@mattb @jcurries @SwiftOnSecurity

IIRC they had a way to turn them off no matter what; you had to turn them upside down and hold for some tens of seconds. I don't remember how long they stayed off after that though.

@filippo I'm continually considering and postponing making an interface that exposes something like home timeline + reply trees that stem from it over nntp and trying to use a news reader with all the old funky ways to score posts.

What's the hope API?

robryk boosted

The Furby source code is public and heavily commented. For example, it turns the microphone off when the motors are running.
archive.org/details/furby-sour

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