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@TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social forcing people to take a drug to participate in society is kinda worse than hitler in a way
@freemo do not cry us a river.
You have the option of not getting vaccinated. All good with that.
Pandemic requires everybody is vaccinated in planes, restaurants, etc. It is common sense.
We never needed "passports" like this before and its just fine.. your argument is so stupid, anyone who wants to be protected can and will just take the vaccine
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measles, tuburculosis, smallpox.. none of these required registrations or mandatory vaccination and guess what, they are damn near nonexistant in the country today... so tell me again why it is needed? Clearly the evidence in every single disease we vaccinated to date shows it is not.
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@freemo they do not mutate like this one. Besides, population used to see the effect of those diseases so they were more willing to be vaccinated.
Today's COVID19 fight is a political stance (it is crazy and stupid, but it is what it is).
So times and virus are not comparable.
Do the math. Build a model if you do not like current models. Variants will be predominant and we need all of them GONE with this version of the vaccine. We do not need a mutation resistant to current version of vaccines...
@icedquinn they are not effective but that virus mutates a lot. It is not the same that smallpox or covid.
In fact the vaccine IS effective against the 4 or 6 flu variants they choose. The problem is that each year are dozens of new variants...
Stop spreading the made up lie that the COVID virus "mutates a lot".. there is nothing remotely unusual about the rate the COVID virus mutates.
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@freemo
do you have data to support your assertion?
@freemo @swiley @icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom
Here you have a catalog of ALL the variants of COVID19. This virus mutates OK? And until know all of them still respond to the COVID19 vaccines. But it could change.
So everybody have to get the vaccine (ideal scenario).
@pthenq1I don't think I ever disagreed with this? But I will continue to say that forcing anyone to take *any* drug is unacceptable (except in a hospital if a patient is unconscious and hasn't signed a DNR.) Many countries did that in the 20th century (in the US state I live we only stopped recently) with some pretty horrific results.
This case is particularly alarming because of:
1) the pretty extreme censorship around it and the related ideas
2) the extreme lack of testing
3) the way it has been turned into a political/PR partition (so 1-3 mean there's very little science involved and if there was it would be difficult to even attempt verifying.)
4) the companies manufacturing the drugs are absolved of liability (lawsuits etc.)
