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@mdhughes @vim
"A challenger"

Nice. I like this.

:map Q gq

I'm hesitant on this one for compatibility.

:set magic

I give it a stamp of approval.

@vim
My 62 line vimrc (bloat edition)
git.sr.ht/~torresjrjr/.vim/tre

Is yours better or worse? More minimal or bloat?

Facebook/Twitter/etc adopting ActivityPub (volutarily or not) is a terrible idea.

I want to write why in my blog.

@lps @aproposnix
Facebook: ~3B users
Fediverse: ~3M users (~1%)

I'll laugh if they try the "muh competition" line. They probably have the balls to do it too lol.

I'm surprised Google (3x worse imo) isn't on the chopping block instead. Or have I slept on the news cycle?

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@imacrea @Gargron
> So what you're saying is advocating interoperability is not enough.

No, I think we have a misunderstanding. I'm saying Facebook implementing ActivityPub and joining the Fediverse is something we would *not want* in the first place.

> What could be added to that, in order to try to avoid... EEE.

I think it's virtually impossible and would cause great harm to the Fediverse instead. Of course, I'm open to ideas.

I think the most effective (and ethical) solution is to build, build, and build more Fediverse instances and services for others to jump ship to. Let's grow the Fediverse together, until it's ready for the masses.

@imacrea @Gargron
> But what if it was mandatory to build interoperable platforms?

What difference would that make? lol I was already assuming that.

> don't you think that would be a huge step for all the people locked in these silos ecosystems?

I don't see how. They'll still be locked in.

> Nobody knows the future.

Of course, but we'd be stupid not to predict. Look at history. This future is very likely.

You have to understand that FB is first and foremost an ad company, not a social network. Their model is simply incompatible with the current Fediverse.

Also, unlike Google with it's multiple services (email, maps, drive...), the Facebook experience is one thing and can't just be broken up.

Mandatory or not, asking for AP integration as essentially asking FB for suicide, which I'd like to see lol but they're clearly not going to just give away ad-viewers for free.

What would actually be better is if it was mandatory for people to stop using FB, and let them use the Fediverse freely. If that was ethical, I'd support that way more. That would give me hope haha.

~b boosted

@torresjrjr @imacrea @Gargron

Agree with current #fediverse beauty and that we should do everything to keep it that way.

Great opportunity with Big Tech under attack and recent developments at the EU related to open standards support for fedi #activitypub et al.

But the present day may also be the start of the biggest challenge and threats that fedi has ever faced. I recommend reading on #socialhub the post:

socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

Also note the #SocialCG on Friday

socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

@mnmlsm
The Tools collection is an ecosystem of open-source software to create audio and visual works, released as Hundred Rabbits.

wiki.xxiivv.com/site/tools.htm

@imacrea @Gargron
> But the context is different.

I don't see how.

> People are on Facebook and Instagram because it's where "it's happening".

True, and that's why they'll stay there. Remember, who has the power?

> Look at how many people set up adblockers.

To us privacy-oriented people, it may seem a lot, but ~95% of people don't know, understand or care at all.

FB has integrated groups, games, DMs, shopping, match-making, images, etc. into one big seemless experience. They make it as addictive as possible. The Fediverse actually has most of these features but it's scattered and hard to understand at first.

My suggestion is don't use FB lol. At all. Burn it. Even if FB succesfully implemented AP and was completely friendly (which will never happen), the centralisation of one giant FB AP instance is completely against the idea of the decentralised Fediverse.

@imacrea @Gargron
> Nobody will force you to connect with such instances run by ads and [such].

Facebook has ~3 billion users. The Fediverse has ~3 million (1%). They won't "force" users to use ad-driven, privacy-invasive ActivityPub platforms, but they won't tell users not to either. Guess who has the power here.

They'll provide easy migration to their own AP services, and then one day, outside instances will be made "incompatible" and "obsolete" because of "new" AP extensions. Whoops! All your fedi friends are now gone and their data is taken.

Email is a good analogy:
GMail didn't "force" anyone to use their service, but then slowly they started quietly flagging individuals' completely normal email servers as "spam", and added tonnes of internal, incompatible crap.

Same story with the Web, XMPP (WhatsApp)... the list goes on and on.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,

> Nobody wants annoying ads nor to be targeted.

lol if this were true, they wouldn't be on Facebook.

@imacrea @Gargron
(If the implication is as such) I'd rather not have FB implement AP. They'd either have to break their own business model or turn the Fediverse into an ad & privacy nightmare. Guess which will happen.

Imaging the ActivityPub working group with corporate sponsors' hands on the spec... no way. Just another embrace-extend-extinguish.

The Fediverse already exists and it's beautiful as it is. Build it (more) and they will come.

@blinkwarp
It's more the stance of Google anyway. Their incomprehensively immense, amassed power and monopoly has led to their inevitable corruption.

I wouldn't say Susan Wojcicki is a puppet or a mastermind. It's complicated. There's PR, and there's the real schemers.

But yes, I really wish they would just shut up and break up.

blog.youtube/news-and-events/s

> We also disallow content alleging widespread fraud or errors changed the outcome of a historical U.S. Presidential election. However in some cases, that has meant allowing controversial views on the outcome or process of counting votes of a current election as election officials have worked to finalize counts.

Welp. I hope PeerTube becomes the future.

@freemo @funny
Similar is when clueless parents buy Fortnite "on DVD" at the local store, when it's a free-to-play game, and they actually bought an extention/season pass.

@sir
Anyone else use vim's netrw unironically?

@fribbledom
> In a high trust society, you don't need a lot of surveillance.

Agree.

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