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Welcome to the #Fediverse @Tupp_ed ;)

Over here in the greater #Fediverse, of which mastodon is just a part, things like Quoted posts, virtually unlimited length posts and even things like Text Formatting (using markup) are completely normal things to use naturally.

It's sadly just mastodon who wants to do things differently. 🙁

@chartier@toot.cafe

Giving it a shot, I looked up @chartier@pixelfed.social 's feed and sure enough, I could see his photos from this Mastodon instance even without following him first.

I *believe* that happens when someone on this Mastodon instance is already following him, so that his PixelFed instance has been sending pictures to this instance already.

@johnleonard could it be that your crossposting is working, but you're just not seeing it yet since you just followed the PixelFed account and it hasn't send any images over yet?

@ayo

Well, also don't forget that with instances blocking each other it's not just an imperfection of federation but sometimes the result of active choices made by instance admins.

@prasket Don't forget that major news/media outlets are slow and bureaucratic. They are slow to change.

They probably have internal processes considering , beginning to research platforms, maybe even doing some preliminary software design work.

They will have to have chains of command, procedures regarding who is allowed to post, how things will be approved, etc.

Legal will have to be involved to weigh in on legal implications of different options.

And on and on.

I"m certain isn't being ignored. It's just a complicated issue from the major outlets' perspective.

@isil_arican @yalansavar

Maybe a private browsing session for one of the logins would make it work.

I also saw this bit of advice, a MacOS app called Fluid that launches websites as individual applications.

jwz.org/blog/2022/11/fluid/

Well this is just smart

(this being the thing I'm quote posting, for platforms that won't show it)

@drewtoothpaste Did Mastodon crop off a punchline at the bottom?

@bitpickup @supernovae@universeodon.com @brettboston @mmasnick

I REALLY think we need to focus on empowering users to shape their experiences instead of pushing toward relying on moderators, human or automated, to do that job.

All too often that option is completely left out of the discussion.

@deinonychus
@sfoxx

Yes, and I REALLY wish tables of instances would list character limits in addition to things like user numbers and posting frequency.

I figure it must be harder to figure that out automatically, so that's why it's not in there.

So within there's a configuration variable for the admin to be able to tweak character limits.

And then in platforms other than Mastodon, on , other platforms will have different character limits by default anyway.

@shelenn If you're interested in the technicalities, see the link below about how engages with to implement some of its features.

My response is that some of those features are completely possible with the and clients like Mastodon just need to slap on the UI to get them done.

Other features.... well, I fault ActivityPub for not having things like cryptographic confirmation of users built in as a core functionality.

Hopefully the different projects continue to mature and provide interfaces that add more and more value to users, in user friendly ways.

docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/act

@Gartenberg

Oh right, that.

I've been sadly laughing at how many of these alternative platforms over the years have written up the most inept terms of service, this one included.

So many of these are written in such a silly, unenforceable way that I guess it really says something about the operators that they'd be published at all. They're jokes.

It's one thing to take a bad idea and write up good, enforceable legal document to establish it. But these guys can't even write good documents for their bad ideas.

@EnPrimeurLefty @philwaring

So I suppose by liked-minded you meant people with the same interest in discussion, not necessarily the same opinions and perspectives on the world?

I probably just misread that.

There are sadly quite a few who really explicitly don't want other opinions around, though.

@imklg

(I do appreciate the links and I hope to go through them when I have time. I have your comment bookmarked for this magical moment when there will be time :) )

@Gartenberg

Huh, what was the wording in ToS forbidding making fun of billionaires?

@philwaring @EnPrimeurLefty but see, to me this is part of how I interpret @EnPrimeurLefty 's admonition that this place must not become Twitter.

Only like-minded people coalescing? Echo chambers discussing politics? Is that really even much of a discussion?

It IS the kind of thing that turned me off to , though. It didn't seem to have much use to it, only reinforcing and bias confirming instead of understanding.

You mention a role as the world's notice board, but your framing above sounds like you'd exclude much of the world from that.

@Sunspot

Well, it's worth highlighting that there is an important recourse, even if it's a weak one: depending on the particular state, the recourse is voting out the state officials doing the bad job.

YES, that absolutely brings in the complications of voting out people with fingers on the scales of voting, but it's not nothing. Gerrymandering is not a perfect system, especially with low voter participation rates.

But I just always like to emphasize that people can and should not ignore the performance of local and state officials.

Too often they get a pass.

@raccoon

Ha. But some instances will be more equal than others :)

@datawuppi

As I understand it, you've just described QUIC

@bkeegan

It doesn't help that "web3" was/is a marketing term with a hundred different meanings, most without any engine under the hood.

@raccoon

Ah, I see what you're saying.

With decentralized servers it's harder to enforce laws against them all?

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