volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@BeAware@social.beaware.live yeah, but that goes back to my other comment to your original post above about our needing much better tools to manage our feeds.

Until we get better tools we're left with these really clumsy ones that block lots of good with the bad, or filter based on hashtags, all of which--yep!--puts our experiences in the hands of others.

This is the problem with a platform that doesn't put much value on empowering end users, which is an attitude I've consistently seen from developers here.

It always ends up putting experiences in the hands of others.

@thisismissem

Is there any particular problem with Fetlife other than the normal chicken and egg problem of that's not where the group is?

@dans_root

@thisismissem

This is the post that surprises me.

I never thought of Tumblr as a place for real, close connections. It always seemed to me to be about momentary connection over shared art or (to put it positively) a user just wanting to make strangers' day better by offering a glimpse into an experience.

So I'm speculating, maybe completely wrong, but I wonder if my impression is the one that the company has actually been aiming for. It would explain so many of the actions you're mentioning.

It might be that y'all found this loophole in their system, forming close connections in a system that was never designed to promote close connection.

Just for example, it's not a problem to them to sever conversations if the platform never valued or wanted to have those conversations in the first place.
@photomatt

@BeAware@social.beaware.live my point, though, is that the alternative isn't a better solution :)

At the least, I can block .social if I want. Leave all the bad actors there so it's easier for you and I to filter our feeds.

@raucao nosat stated that Bitcoin is not money because "money requires the property of fungibility, this means each unit is the exact same as every other unit"

I don't think that claim is exactly right, and so it's not a solid argument against Bitcoin being money.

Yep, not a valid argument, or even compelling one.

@freemo it's the thing that happens to so many public figures... not to mention sitcom characters:

When a person can consistently get a crowd reaction with some superficial action, eventually they get lazy and just lean into that action instead of putting in the effort to have depth, which is harder.

Basically, these real life figures eventually give up and become the caricature that their fans want, just like a sitcom character where writers get lazy and just write them as one dimensional.

@admin

I don't think that's the solution, though.

Just spreading out the problem doesn't changing the scaling of it. If anything, it might make it harder, not easier.

A big instance can have an army of people attacking the problem, moderating consistently and as a team, organized into shifts or whatever they need to do to do it as efficiently and effectively as possible.

But if you divide the misbehavers into various instances, the problem is the same size, but now instead of one potentially organized moderation team you have the need for moderators at every independent instance.

Better, I think, to collect all the misbehavers into one place where they can be dealt with.
@BeAware@social.beaware.live

@PerryM Keep in mind that potential Trump voters are not one monolithic group.

Many of the different clusters are on the fence, or considering different strategies, or have entirely different, often opposite motivations from others.

There is plenty of room to peel voters off, but unfortunately so many attacks against Trump are strategically unwise, actually uniting them.

I think so many misunderstand Trump voters as being a single, unaccessible block, and through strategic missteps actually strengthen them into that.

@_9CL7T9k8cjnD_ have you considered that analyses like this might be part of the problem, might be part of the misunderstanding of society that lead to so much surprise when Trump was elected?

The methodologies behind such analyses reflect values that might be the very ones that populations have lost faith in.

It's like when the WHO ranks countries for health outcomes, and by health outcomes they mean polices the WHO prefers. It ends up begging the question.

It's more telling to consider things like direct polling on faith in institutions. That helps show a more direct measure without skew.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/09/19/public-trust-in-government-1958-2023/

@Peg33

@nosat are dollar bills money?

Because they aren't the exact same as each other.

Same with Bitcoin.

The concept of dollar and of Bitcoin remain fungible even if the actual paper or transaction record might involve some uniqueness.

And thus, Bitcoin is money, particularly since people buy and sell things with it, as money.

@raucao

@apenkop well it's that the mission is more important than the people.

The organization exists to provide goods and services. That's its reason for being.

If an organization is putting people first, great, it's a social club. Those are important and valuable too, but they're a different type of organization than these.

@schwa

@schwa that's the way I'd prefer it handled, personally.

I don't want some symbolic counseling session where the employer pretends to care. I don't have time for that.

I'd say it's more respectful to skip the show and just tell the employee if they're fired.

@maxkennerly but the story that Boeing killed a bunch of people was debunked by the crash investigation once they accessed the flight data recorder.

It's just unfortunate that so many news outlets rushed to judgment and reported causes and culpability that turned out to be false in the end, instead of waiting for investigations to really sort it out.

It's just the state of journalism these days.

@kaydenpat Well right, because they said their action, whatever you want to call it, was patriotic.

It's not inconsistent or hypocrisy. It's simply a disagreement of fact between different groups and different opinions based on those facts as to what constitutes the patriotic path.

@lauren we will see, but even including things like regulatory considerations I'm getting the distinct feeling of "This time is different, just like I said last time, and the time before that, but really this time IS different."

It really doesn't look fundamentally different to me.

Same song different verse.

@briansullivan

@_9CL7T9k8cjnD_ the critical thing you're missing is that the government is ALREADY destabilized and faith in institutions has already cratered.

It's critical to realize that Trump is the effect, not the cause.

If those things were solid there would have been no way for him to gain a toehold.

His entire gimmick is saving people from the instability that they were already yelling about.

@Peg33