volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
@waysideollie but he has no official authority to "fix" SCOTUS, which is core to the ruling.
@Handydude Trump is so hated that so many of us are begging for a workable candidate to vote for.
Almost anyone. Put almost anyone on the ballot and we will vote for them.
Unfortunately Biden and Harris have tarnished their records so badly that they might be the only ones that could lose to Trump.
Give us any vaguely competent nominee.
@Phracker2Art then I don't understand what your central argument is.
What are you trying to say?
@ArneBab of course it's how law works. And we can see that play out everyday as we watch Court decisions come down and impact the real world.
That's how we know our legal rights and responsibilities. We point to law. Like, driving down the road we point to the speed limit sign to know that we can drive this fast.
Yes, this is how law works.
@Phracker2Art It's not nitpicking because pointing it out completely undermines the claim that they would be able to underpay their employees.
If you're saying that's the mechanism by which they would underpay employees than it really matters that the mechanism you're identifying doesn't exist.
No, challenging that law would not lead to the result that you bring up, so it's core to what you're saying.
@Nonilex It's a bizarre thing to say that originalism stole the Constitution since originalism is all about promoting the Constitution. So it's hard to imagine what this person might be talking about, it seems paradoxical and contradictory on its face.
@DoesntExist@mastodon.social If you read their ruling, scotus said the opposite, they spent paragraph after paragraph explicitly laying out that the president should face legal repercussions.
Heck, their conclusion was that the lower court should continue to pursue repercussions against Trump.
Yes, there's a lot of loudmouths trying to misinform everybody. You should stop listening to them because they are lying to you.
@samohTmaS No, that's not how the law works.
@ArneBab No that's not how the law works either. The Supreme Court doesn't decide the election, is decided by the EC as presided over by the people that we elect to Congress.
@ArneBab okay fine, here you go
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
@Phracker2Art having the nlrb declared unconstitutional would not allow them to break the law and underpay their employees.
So no?
That's not how that works.
@rightardia The problem is that whom the Democratic candidate is directly determines who wins the presidency.
@ErosBlog I mean, no less believable than the nonsense you spouted above.
Yeah Biden sucks. But no, the last guy didn't pack the Supreme Court with drunks.
@claralistensprechen3rd but they would if the Democrats chose a more electable nominee
@pinhman It's just really notable that after all that hassle nothing was actually accomplished.
These children need to be called out for what a waste of time they are.
@ZaneSelvans are you an anarchist trying to bring down the government?
That kind of ticket would be so amazingly ridiculous.
@ArneBab Well the US might operate differently from Germany.
No, that's not how it works in the US, that's just not how the US legal system operates.
@leswarden @jeffjarvis Well that's a dumb thing to say that's clearly not factually true.
If anything I really want to see the Democrats nominate somebody who can beat Trump. I'm not behind Biden because I don't want Trump to win. It's BECAUSE we're not behind Trump that were not behind #biden
The description of what happened is a lie. That's not what the Supreme Court decided.
So you're right, the Constitution didn't have a thing to do with it. What is written above is pure fiction, it doesn't have to do with the Constitution or the Supreme Court. It has to do with clickbait and misinformation coming out of special interest groups.
No, The Supreme Court did not give presidents such immunity. In fact the ruling spent pages outlining that presidents are subject to being prosecuted under the law, contrary to reporting.
But never mind what the court actually wrote, these outlets are spinning lies because they get clicks. And that's just really a shame.
@Downshift I mean, GOP officials have said project 2025 is nonsense, so I guess you're on their side?
@qkslvrwolf I feel so enlightened by your response.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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