volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
@professorhank@sfba.social Yeah, a simple recognition of executive privilege, which is well established.
It says if you have evidence of a crime, bring it. Absolutely prosecute presidents for crimes.
The two are just haggling over the details, but the fundamental issue is perfectly reasonable.
@saskiatxt.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy
The topic is such a mess, in part because of how clumsily people think about the analogy.
> Firstly, the lack of an algorithm makes it a lot more of a level playing field.
Take this. In a physical town square there IS an algorithm of sorts. People naturally group into discussion topics, and as you walk around, different discussions get amplified to you.
Without that algorithm it's just a cacophony of jumbled words, as people do complain about on here.
Meanwhile we're faced with legal systems trying to apply town hall analogies that just confuse it all more.
We COULD work to get the best of town halls here without the worst, but so far we're really off-track.
@orbitalmayo@spacey.space but just because a view is narrow doesn't mean it's wrong.
Or, to be more complete, different people value different outcomes, and perhaps SpaceX IS achieving the outcomes that a person considers more important, and that's not to be waived away lightly.
NASA, as a government agency, must be responsive to the values of society, regardless of whether you or I might agree with public sentiment of the moment.
AND just as importantly, such agencies MUST make the case to the public that they are effectively achieving those results.
If people are missing key points about the value of governmental agencies, then government needs to work harder to engage with the people.
@MisuseCase this election cycle has been described as policy-free, and there's something to that.
So many voters are so focused on personalities and fighting for the sake of fighting that actual policy really doesn't play a huge role this time around, and that's a shame.
Politicians will naturally avoid talking policy since their positions will inevitably turn off those who disagree with their stance. They'd rather remain comfortably neutral, if voters will let them.
This time around, voters are letting them.
Firstly, Trump is clearly wrong about the law.
Secondly, this description is even more wrong.
Trump has the issue of war not being declared. But here, even if war was declared, it still wouldn't authorize the removal of those justices.
@professorhank@sfba.social the SCOTUS said nothing of the sort. In fact, its ruling said the opposite.
Firstly, the ruling said absolutely nothing about investigation. If the president wants to spend resources investigating, he can have at it, so long as he stays within legal boundaries.
But the ruling made clear that presidents are free to prosecute any action outside of official authority.
@Eka_FOOF_A it's more that he's surprised by so many people repeating the exact opposite of what the ruling said.
When people criticize the ruling for letting Trump off the hook, Roberts finds that surprising as the ruling promoted prosecution of Trump, explicitly sending his case for further prosecution.
Websites like dailykos don't help this situation, and Roberts is kind of stuck addressing a public that doesn't know what the Court actually said.
The article is focused on criticisms of the FBI and two different presidential administrations, headed by presidents of two different parties.
Why in the world would Kavanaugh lose his job over what the other branch of government did?
Ethics on the SCOTUS can be enforced by impeachment and removal from office. But this story isn't about the justices.
@light I don't remember who it was this time, but it comes up surprisingly frequently in my experience.
@europesays ... The system that they are proposing to reform, whether they can or not, is not the system that made them billionaires.
Heck, I'm not even sure they are billionaires.
Either way, what's with this meme? It's pretty out there.
@europesays It's honestly a bit suspicious to have the exact same numbers considering all the differences in polling strategies and analytic methods over the years.
It's a pretty big coincidence.
It's always striking to hear a self described liberal in the US praising feudalism and sounding like they wish we could get back to that sort of system.
That's just how it's going over here.
@MHowell so they're just continuing their trolling.
It's cute, but it's not the kind of game that should be taking up the resources of courts that are already stretched kind of thin. Society paying for their stunt.
@kimwulff keep in mind that so many Trump voters are motivated by wanting to throw grenades into the status quo.
That the guy presents this way serves their purpose.
His cognitive disorder is what the voters want!
@paul yep
ActivityPub made some technological choices that I'm very critical of, and stuff like this was so unnecessary.
But here we are.
@MartyLemert No, I meant what specifically about the Roberts Court are you referring to?
I'm well aware of the reputation of Dred Scott, and that makes it even more curious how you could compare anything from the Roberts Court to that famous decision.
@mickymorse The GOP voted to fund programs that help old folks.
@OWHolmes The reason is likely because the administration simply is not confident that it would be able to empanal a jury to agree that the evidence proved the crime, regardless of how convincing you personally feel that might be.
That's just how the population of the country is, a whole lot of people don't find it convincing, and there's a really good chance that cross-section would end up on the jury and prevent conviction.
@Linux_in_a_Bit we don't have to speculate based on patterns or statistics because we have the flight data recorder telling us exactly what happened. The flight data recorder showed pilot error.
Part of the problem of course is that the press started spreading these speculative stories before the flight data recorder was recovered and analyzed. By then everybody was already running with an incorrect narrative.
It's worth emphasizing that because it happens so often these days in so many different areas of reporting.
@FloydyStu Well that's not true.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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