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Some thoughts on the qoto.org situation:
1. Many of the attacks on qoto are deliberately or accidentally misinformed. A look at the public timeline (https://qoto.org/public) shows that we are not the cesspool of Nazism that some would portray us as. @freemo is bringing screenshot receipts in his defense; I haven't seen them from attackers.
2. I have no idea how to deescalate this.
3. No matter how noble our intentions, their may come a point where we simply lose. It sounds like we've lost @Gargron and @FediThing@tech.lbt. Does anyone know @stux's opinion?
4. If the people I want to interact with are all on servers that have defederated with qoto, I will migrate.
5. I appreciate the value of hearing different points of view and the danger of being too quick to cancel someone based on a rumor. At the same time, there are toxic people and certain servers are full of them. Saying it's up to individual users to block things they don't want to see feels a bit privileged. Marginalized people may very reasonably just not want to run into constant microaggressions and expect their moderator to keep it out of their feeds. Trolls are *very* good at getting right up to the ban line and insisting, "I'm not touching you!"
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stux is a friend of mine, weve had beers, i help him with his servers when i can... He has not made a comment on this either way. I have no intention to push him to make a comment either. If he feels so compelled.. if he wants to save his ass I understand that too.
has #4 come to pass, is it approaching? I knopw of very fewe servers of any size that has defederated from us.. popular opinon as can be seen from the recent thread on fedithings is overwhelmingly in our favor.. every response on fedithings post last i checked without no exception was in our favor. or at least no expections i noticed.
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There is a lot of support there, but also plenty of hostile responses, sampled below. (I'm not fact-checking or taking a stance on these claims here, just noting that they are hostile.)
"Yeah I have screens of the admin interacting with and boosting posts from people on the alt-right fash shithole servers the rest of us block hard."
"Other than the admin, the other users seem mostly fine from a quick public timeline scroll, but that instance’s federated timeline is gonna be a mess of alt-right trash. Anyone on legit fascist instances are also gonna be able to harass you as well."
"ngl I'm totally ok with not seeing posts from people who literally want me and my friends dead
I'm not sure why you're ok with seeing them and it makes me feel unsafe around you
there are so many other places on the internet to see that - I don't need it here because I want my friends to feel safe around me"
""(people) aren't going to read some random thing on the internet and turn bad. It just doesn't happen."
.... have they been like lost at sea on a wooden raft in the past 6-7 years??"
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Those are new from when I first looked... I would have to see the handles of the people who said it to know if its worth caring about.. if its all just garbage from the few toxic instances with a handful of users, especially considering they block so much of the fediverse it isnt a fair cross section... well then i wouldnt care much.
Context, and in this case the handles, make a big impact on if those toxic people int he feed matter at all.
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@freemo @peterdrake @QOTO @trinsec Most of those responses I saw there looked like they were from smaller instances, but admittedly I didn't go through and manually check everything I saw.