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@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
And when someone staps someone or beats them with a bat do we cry about how bats are legal... Yes there is a problem, but absurd solutions like making guns illegal is obviously not the answer.
@freemo @stormy178 With children being shot, sir, you should be replying that guns should be more regulated. Demand BETTER RESTRICTIONS and background checks. Your knee jerk reaction “Don’t ya take my guns” is a sad and tired old record. It shows lack of compassion and refusal to see the crisis that we are truly in right now. For those of you who are Christian, I always wonder WWJD? If he angrily threw out the money changers imagine what he would do to the NRA.
What an ignorant and uninformed way to view the problem.
It sounds pretty much equivalent to saying things like:
"Oh why oh why are cars still legal when kids are dying in car accidents"
Or even worse yet: "If we made vaccines illegal people would stop dying of vaccines.
The reason is because these viewpoints are ignorant of the big picture. Guns save lives, and prevent incidents from happening, they also cause incidents. Any real argument looks at all of that at frames the issue as one of violence first and foremost.
No we arent "oh but we like our toys".. no its more like "Well these tools help us prevent deaths too, so we wont give them up over a poorly framed emotional argument.
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Nice goal post moving you did there.
Personally I beleive in bodily autonomy.. the same reason I support abortion is the reason I support access to suicide methods.
So guns being a route for suicide is not just ok, it is prefered.
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>Be in a world where cars are regulated like guns
>Pickup trucks banned
>minivans banned
>Anything bigger than a yugo is strictly for military use
>Background checks for every dealership visit
>separate licenses for buying and operating vehicles
>automatic transmission banned
>Need to life saving travel in Europe you're already dead
>ATF agents ran over your wife and dog because what are yoy gonna do about it
I have decided you should livestream yourself gargling bleach to increase the world's IQ
Doc (WBF :idunno: Edition) :cat_stare_activated:
Those same illegals get firearms too and cause crimes with them in the USA and also send them back across the border so the cartels can use them in violent crime.
mexicans also make straw purchases for the cartels and send the guns back to mexico where they are used to victimize BLACK BODIES in this specific case.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/20/americas/mexico-matamoros-us-citizens-kidnapping-gun-charge/index.html
"In 2019, more than 10,000 people were killed in alcohol‐impaired‐driving accidents, meaning that drunk driving was responsible for almost 28 percent of all traffic deaths."
https://usafacts.org/data/topics/security-safety/crime-and-justice/firearms/firearm-deaths/
In 2019 there were 14,414 gun deaths that were homicides so gun deaths are slightly worse than drunk driving deaths. Gun deaths that are suicide do NOT count because suicidal people will always find a way to kill themselves.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/02/23/young-black-men-teens-made-up-more-than-third-2019-gun-homicides/4559929001/
https://moguldom.com/338709/homicides-against-black-americans-increased-by-1000-deaths-in-2020/
We all know that these increase aren't due to Whites murdering Blacks. I sympathize with you because you seem to care about your people and are trying to fix a problem but you are "armed" with incorrect data and are placing blame upon the wrong things.
If you want to get to the root of the problem then start looking at WHO moved all the jobs out of our communities and WHO made gangster rap so popular. Those same people are also responsible for allowing illegal immigration which disproportionately affects lower and middle class Blacks more than it does Whites and it had been pretty damn bad for Whites.
The same people responsible for the state of modern Black America are the same people responsible for the decline in ALL of America.
I feel bad for Black people because jews stole them from their homeland and forced them into slavery all across the Americas and the island countries near there during the Atlantic slave trade and I support reparations of at least $100,000 each for those who choose to return to Africa but the people who would be financially responsible for paying would be mostly jewish along with a very small group of elite European families who have connections to those jews and have built their generational wealth off of exploiting Blacks and working class Whites.
I admire your love of your people and would like to help you because it would benefit all of us if the true perpetrators of the slave trade and the cause of the increase in Black on Black and Black on White violence were made known to the public.
What do you think about the anti-BDS laws that so many states have been passing? It's weird how White people are supposed to have so much power and yet we don't have any laws that prevent people from making honest criticisms against us, not that there is as much criticism to be made against Whites as there are jews.
You ever look into the REAL history behind "blood diamonds?"
The DeBeers diamond mining company is jewish, along with nearly all other diamond companies and most all of the companies exploiting the resources in Africa and stealing from the Africans. How will Africa ever become a decent country if jews and the chinese who have deep connections to jews are allowed to steal the resources which rightfully belong to Africans?
I hope you don't block me because I'd like to have a civil conversation with you and learn more about what you think and why you think. Like I've said before, I think you have good intentions and want the best for your people and I want the same for mine so we have at least that in common.
If we look for the things we have in common first instead of the things that are different and divide us we can accomplish so much more. We will never completely agree with each other on everything but we should work together on the things we do agree on at least and I think you would be surprised at how much we have in common once you learn the truth about things.
@freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com So guns don't kill people but they save lives? How nice of them.
@freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com Someone has to be this person so I'll proceed. Firearms are really cool and very dense in Physics and Engineering. With the War on X mentality, education has suffered.
The CETME's history and the development of the AR-15 are absolutely insane. Ian McCollum with Forgotten Weapons has really cool videos on the subjects.
It really says something when my interest in Electrochemistry was sparked by Uncle Fester. Fast forward to me using that information to protect structures from corrosion. It was 4 or 5 graduate level texts later but it still sparked that thirst for knowledge and eventual application.
Give kids every chance to stand in pure awe of something. One moment for me was seeing a real SR-71 in person. I couldn't touch it but still I got moved along by guards because I was paying too much attention. It was being serviced and I was able to see a little bit of the turbines. Not even porn has been that interesting. A crude example but it was that amazing. I can still visualize that section rather vividly approximately 24 years later.
Tons of physjcs stuff out there that leverages guns. Yes they serve many purposes beyond killing
@MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com
@freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com The Mini 14 was a good lesson in why harmonics are important. The M4 was useful in learning why a 14.5in barrel using a round developed for a 16 to 20in barrel is not that good. Yep it took until 1996 to be formally introduced because of problems. Now it's being replaced with a battle rifle that weighs around 13.5lbs.
Ignore the Engineers and Designers. It's like NASA with O-rings. Communism doesn't stop for cold weather. We need another victory lap.
@AmpBenzScientist @freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178 and in Vietnam they learned the hard way, going for velocity at the expense of all else doesn't work too well. That's how the early M16 got a bad rep.
@mike805 @freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com Well the Gobment made the action button, changed the stick powder to something else, no cleaning kits were issued, for some reason they didn't have chrome lined barrels and add in around 800 rounds per minute of barely any recoil fed in 20 round magazines. It's empty after around 1.5 seconds.
The original round was very effective and it was classified as to why it was effective. The round was prone to fragmentation around 3000fps. So that's one reason that round was phased out and a different twist was used.
Add in the fact that the AK-47s were actually Chinese Type 56 rifles and the North Korean version. Both had milled receivers and weren't the garbage Soviet AKM. If you look at US GIs holding a captured AK rifle, there's likely a lightening cut above the magazine well. That's the Type 56.
With all that being said, it worked great for the USAF and special forces units. The fragmentation issue was deemed a metallurgical problem.
It's a wonder it survived.
@freemo @AmpBenzScientist @MelodyCooper @stormy178 Just about all tech is descended from weapons! The two basic human technologies are fire and sharp objects; everything else comes from those two.
More specifically, engines are descended from cannon. Newcomen was having no success with his steam power experiments until he hired a cannon maker to produce the cylinders. Then he finally had a good enough seal to make his engine work.
@mike805 @freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com Diesel Engines and the fire piston. The Wankel and Mazda. Steam boilers exploding and the Sterling Engine.
@freemo @stormy178 Cars and drivers are regulated more than guns and gun owners are. While that truth sinks in (we’ll wait), in a diagram, here’s another emotional argument you won’t win. Keep trying though if it makes you feel better about suicides and 160 mass shootings to date in 2023. Good luck and Good night.