Amikke @Amikke@qoto.org

@algowatching and either way, “murder” implies intent. If someone didn’t intend to kill other people then they “killed” them, no matter if by freak accident with no fault of their own or by bad judgement / incompetence / other at fault but unintentional causes.

@algowatching is my automatic translator wrongly translating the “Although some doctors had partially incorrectly or at least incompletely informed the accused about his suitability for driving” part? Sorry, I don’t speak German.

@algowatching man, that’s gotta be some kind of a superpower, correct, correct, correct and correct. It’s almost as if these aren’t magical mind powers but just a brain trained on, and really tired of, way too many of those outrage posts.

@algowatching lemme use my magical mind powers to guess the omitted details: the person that “murdered” the people with a SUV was in an accident by no or small fault of his own while the activist not only actively decided to be illegally a pain in the ass for everyone in the vicinity, but did it enough times previously to deserve that harshened nth offence sentence.

@ami_angelwings could’ve been worse tbh

@Edwin085 that’s funny on an additional level: “Damskie spodnie” means “female pants”.

@jgg @freemo I assume they’re similar more often than not, we spent thousands of years interacting with each other after all, unlike the bloody islanders :p

@freemo nah, I used languages with gendered nouns as an example less natural to a native English speaker. Having gendered pronouns is fundamentally very similar, you’re just used to it.

Also

All genders in english are it except for things that actually have gender, in which case its the gender…

the ship example disagrees.

@jgg @freemo yeah, same with Polish. Why is death female or a tooth male? No clue, it just is. It’s weird to some kids learning it but then we get used to it, grow up and have it ingrained in our minds.

@freemo overcomplication often has some benefit or reason, it’s overcomplication when that benefit is overshadowed by downsides.

Gendered language helps in expressing one idea: gender. It has charm, especially with things like calling a ship or other vessel “she”, but with being a mandatory inherent part of the language it causes disproportionally more problems.

@freemo sure, every overcomplication of a language has the ability to be more expressive, one of the reasons why adapting an artificial language as common isn't a well liked idea. This particular case causes more problems than it's worth though. It's kinda like with languages where every noun is gendered, for native speakers it's natural and positive due to more expression, for everyone else it's pointless and stupid even if it has some charm. And I say that as a native speaker of one of them.

@freemo gendered language was a mistake. There's apparently a language that has "ö" as all the pronouns, avoids all problems on all sides of that topic. Shame that trying to shoehorn this type of gender neutrality into gendered languages usually ends up incredibly cursed and nobody bar radical activists wants to actually use it.

@DeepfriedChips @BrodieOnLinux it’s my personal favourite: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/255161/comments/28