Amikke @Amikke@qoto.org

@pansocial @nixCraft the nice thing about a market ecosystem is that the companies compete with each other and so price=supply/demand works. Cheaper production does make them lower prices because that's how they stay competitive.

And I think you misunderstood what I meant by profit being net value provided to society. Revenue is receiving money proportional to value provided to the payers. Cost is spending money proportional to value taken from the payees. Profit is therefore proportional to the net value provided to society. It doesn't matter what they spend the money on, they had to provide value to earn it and the monetary profits they receive are only a reward for it.

@pansocial @nixCraft profit in this case is just net value provided to society. Yes, people whose work is no longer needed will need to switch to other jobs, that's what always has to happen in cases like this lest you have a system where people do work that is no longer needed just to continue to pull resources from society, effectively transforming from workers to parasites. Avoiding this is one of the reasons capitalism actually works unlike the alternatives.

Helping people switch to other jobs? I'm all for it. Trying to hinder progress that will benefit the whole of society just so the workers that it would replace can continue pretending to be needed? No, thanks. How did it go, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?

As for automation not benefiting workers, that's absolutely not the case. Everyone wins when jobs get automated and their results become cheaper and more widely available. For those who lose jobs because of it it may still be net negative, but they're a tiny fraction of all workers across the system.

I checked because of this meme, proves true yet again.

The list btw: https://repology.org/repositories/statistics/newest

Jesus, I knew nixpkgs were a huge and well maintained repository, but not that it's to that level, sorted by project up to date the top 6 repos are all nixpkgs, including 4 deprecated versions.

Arch and Gentoo users in shambles.

#Linux #NixOS

@nixCraft taking away hard work and jobs is always a net positive, the fetishising of labour needs to stop. If steam machines were invented today y'all would be crying about them taking away hard work from manual laborers.

That's the point. Work is something that is done because it's needed, not because it's wanted. The moment you want to stop automating your work because that would leave you without it you're no longer a worker that provides needed services, you're holding the society hostage to still pay you.

@mjambon @freemo wait there's a federal discount for tipped employees? Hahahahahahaha how did they manage to do the exact opposite of a sensible policy?

@freemo for WM I've been using Plasma's Wayland session for way over a year too, I adapted PipeWire early though and had no problems with screenshots or the like, only rare WM crashes and restarts. But these gradually stopped over updates and now I haven't had a problem for months now, maybe even half a year.

The fact that SDDM still used X and so my system still autostarted it just to display the login manager which would then launch a wayland session was a bit annoying though. Especially since X would often refuse to shut down gracefully alongside the rest of the system and slowed down any reboots by the 1m30s of systemd being patient before shooting it in the head.

It seems that the switch of SDDM to wayland worked and I'm now finally writing this from a system with no native X server running anywhere, only XWayland inside of my Plasma session.

Nice.

@freemo fingers crossed for the process to be as painless as possible lol

@nixCraft this was annoying to me when an install created a stupidly small boot partition that was filling up with with a few kernels+initramfs and whatever system I had at the time tried to keep more.