Amikke @Amikke@qoto.org

@karlauerbach @happyborg @hyolo @volkris it's an extremely interesting topic, mr. M. Ben-Ari's book on concurrent and distributed programming was one of _those_ CS books I enjoyed reading even though it was already some 25 years old at that point. But as I'm sure you know the biggest problem with systems like the one discussed here isn't its distributed nature, nor the possibility that some nodes may fail, but the possibility that some nodes may belong to bad actors and be actively malicious. Trying to work around that is 100% of the reason behind cryptocurrency blockchains' inefficiency, so I'm very interested in how Autonomi is supposed to solve that problem while retaining efficiency.

@happyborg that honestly sounds like re-inventing a blockchain. How is data stored permanently, by who, and how is it ensured that they play nice? Also where can I learn more, since a search query for "autonomi" returns what seems like mostly unrelated stuff.
@hyolo @volkris @karlauerbach

@icedquinn people generally aren't rational actors, but renting out living space is such free money that the only reasons for not doing it are:
1. You are a monumental idiot and if you still have any money it's not for long. (Happens, but not commonly enough to consist for most of the empty housings.)
2. You're too old to deal with this shit. (Happens, but not for long by nature.)
3. The laws of renting out apartments are so retarded that they've done the unthinkable and made it legit not worth it. (Possible, but rare and places that implement those usually go into an economic death spiral pretty fast.)
4. You are hoping for an opportunity to sell them off so soon and for so much higher price that it's worth sacrificing short-term profits to have the housing ready. (As you mentioned happens, but not common and not for long.)

@icedquinn that's funny. Still a tiny minority compared to the actual percentage of empty housings the lefties love to throw around and blame on Evil Speculators.

@icedquinn you got baited by leftie economic comprehension, in the vast majority of cases it's more worth it even for speculators to lend those houses out. Sure, they may gain value by sitting there, but they can earn more money and degrade not much faster when actually used. The empty housings you hear about are usually in bumfuck nowhere where people are running away from and literally nobody wants to buy them for any reasonable price, nor does anyone want to rent them.

@karlauerbach people who don't renew domain names due to becoming disinterested, old or dead won't also sustain the servers. The only thing the lack of "ICANN's utterly stupid domain name renewal system" would cause would be a constantly growing mountain of corpses of good domains forever pointing to dead servers or IP addresses that changed hands since, while everyone else uses domains like `domain-name-not-really-this-time927843872.some-other-subdomain.weirdass-tld` which are the ones that actually aren't as scarce as good domain names.

@cy also while I'm not directly connected to the community or the particular cases, I know from friends who are that the issue wasn't as simple as "bad state propaganda caused one group to go rogue" which is what anarchist outlets like to push since it makes them look better. From what I remember it was mostly a case of a single malicious actor abusing the trust and hospitality of Syrena, and when they finally got kicked out, going to the other squat, whatever it was called, spreading lies and firing them up against them. Since it's anarchists we're talking about, they took things in their hands and attacked them instead of trying to resolve it in a civilised manner.

Also since it's anarchists we're talking about, as a punishment they, quoting the official statement you linked,
> feel that we will not be able to cooperate or support the people who actively participated in the escalation of this situation and who attacked the Siren on December 5. This can only take place when these people voluntarily submit to the remedial process, bearing at the same time the full consequences of their behavior expressed in such a process.

I'm sure the perpetrators are very sad about this and will in fact personally show up to get punished out of their good will.

@cy yeah they condemn the action, waving a finger is known to work very well at punishing the attackers and dissuading future attacks. If only they had some form of democratically governed force dedicated to actually stopping and punishing attacks of aggressive groups…

#tgv #train #meme

@Hyolobrika

@mir they're worse, more like taking the worst parts from Apple, Microsoft and Sony.

@avlcharlie @freemo they're the same picture, any attempt at the first results in the second.

@cy @admitsWrongIfProven @Hyolobrika a year or so ago in Warsaw one anarchist squat got invaded by another anarchist squat and kicked out of their place. Anarchy doesn't work even between small groups consisting entirely of the minority of people believing in and willing to support anarchy.

@74 (razem, L) to piękne podsumowanie po postach że będzie druga tura Trzasek-Biejat XD