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Who would want Mastodon instances to fight with each other?

@Pat Someone with an axe to grind? Someone who can't stand to be held accountable to the rules, so they'd prefer to burn it all to the ground? Someone who prefers ideology over facts and truth? Someone who prefers tribalism to facts and truth?

@Romaq

I was thinking more along the lines of someone who just spent $44B to buy a sieve.

@Pat That person could want whatever they wish. Unless the person has a firm grasp of social systems and the nature of people, someone like that would have little to no impact upon Mastodon. Besides, Mastodon is irrelevant at that scale: no appreciable commercial interest.

@Pat Perhaps it is. In fact, perhaps the COVID-19 nightmare of US policy is being steered by the Kremlin. Hell... I'm super *SUPER* pissed with the Libertarian Party for talking Putin Party Line over Ukraine.

I'm not clear to what degree it matters or how much. What I *CAN* do is stand there like an angry honey badger, "There's the evidence! There's the truth! It's RIGHT FREAKN' THERE! See it? Damn you, see it?"

And I may be wrong, but I can only be persuaded based on the evidence presented, and I'm willing to accept being wrong. Beyond that, I've no idea what "external influence" really matters.

@Romaq

The LP. Yeah, that's a great case study in social cooperation.

Actually, I'm not even really following the Masdo drama and have no idea what it's about. What I'm hearing doesn't make sense, but then again my brain can't make sense of most things that people do.

@Pat While I prefer the Libertarian philosophy as a personal view, I recognize it's crap for scaling up for social behavior. For that, I've been excommunicated from The True Libertarian Faith as a Apostate Statist.

We wouldn't be in this situation AT ALL if only the Libertarians had designed and built Mastodon.

Heh.

The Mastodon situation, tl;dr:

Petty jealousy and hatred among hard-line Antifa instances, provoked by an actual self-admitted Nazi kicked from QOTO, have pressured the "newbe instance maintainer" who ALSO maintains the Mastodon code into dropping QOTO.ORG without notice or stated public cause, then citing causes based on proven fabrication by the Antifa folks dancing to the tunes set by the actual Nazi who kicked it off.

In short, people seem to be acting like people.

@Pat @Romaq Snow (the asshole stirring up this drama) was doing this before Musk bought Twitter, and some of the admins I've seen have a beef with Freemo have been having it since the days when Gab joined --- and subsequently left --- the Fediverse.

In short, this is stuff that predates the current influx of users by some time. As I have said, my hope is that this sort of drama will have less impact over time as more people come in. Whether that actually happens remains to be seen.

@mathlover @Pat @Romaq
Yep. Old Fediverse drama that's coming up again now that Mastodon is gaining popularity.

Had the influx not occurred - it probably wouldn't happen again so soon.

@lucifargundam

My interpretation of the data is that this was kicked off earlier than the current , and the influx has only inflamed the petty hate and jealously of the Antifa crowd dancing to the tunes called by the actual Nazi who started this after being kicked from qoto.org. So it's a fire that's been burning, and throwing some good ol' LOX onto it didn't help.

@mathlover @Pat

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