Shamar @Shamar@qoto.org

@grunfink

Nop, I'll add an example in the following days... :-)

As for the CGI+Crontab version, actually it's not that hard to hack something together with minimal changes to existing code and few new source files, but I'm facing a couple of issues that suggests a proper fork:

1. the CGI ends up being larger than 6Mb because of curl & openssl that, as far as I can tell, are not needed because all the CGI has to do is to save the proper queue item on the filesystem
2. no command handle the global queue alone

The second issue is quite easy to solve with minimal changes and could help everybody.

The first however requires a lot of careful reorganization of the code.

On the other hand, I don't like the idea of a fork diverging too much, first because you are doing a great work here so much I think #snac deserves much more visibility.

And yet, technically speaking, a fork would make much sense to keep both code bases clean and focused to their use case.

@grunfink

Did you see this PR?

https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2/pulls/229

On top of that I'm also trying to hack a CGI+Crontab version of snac, but it's not ready yet.

@anzu@livellosegreto.it

The one you liked here: https://livellosegreto.it/@anzu/113542810934577307

http://users.atw.hu/gerigeri/DawnOS/index.html

@anzu@livellosegreto.it Don't know... I tried to access that very url, but I got an error page...

@anzu@livellosegreto.it

The website was down a hour ago...

@anzu@livellosegreto.it

I was thinking more about your subleq vm in lambda coding...

@anzu@livellosegreto.it you are going to like it, I suppose (if you are not the author, yourself :-)

The more I read about #PermaComputing the more I like it (I'm repeating this sentece too often, lately).

While reading about that I was exposed to #DawnOS a whole operating system designed for a #subleq machine.

Here some links:
- https://permacomputing.net/DawnOS/
- https://esoteric.codes/blog/a-programming-language-with-only-one-command-and
- https://web.archive.org/web/20200131120944fw_/http://gerigeri.uw.hu/DawnOS/download.html

The original website is down.
I was able to download a binary image from the WaybackMachine, but I can't find the source code anywhere.

I cannot even find a license, so I suppose it's neither #FreeSoftware nor #OpenSource.

I'd really like to know more about this #OperatingSystem and its history (boost appreciated) and I'd like to find an up-to-date address to contact the author.

#FediHelp #OSDEV

@taye

While I like tools that do one thing well and hate bloatware, I'd appreciate a client-side upload filter that remove #EXIF metadata from media uploaded in the fediverse.

A more advanced feature would be a UI that let you see EXIF metadata and enable their inclusion in the uploaded file or even edit them.

@NGIZero

amusing!

https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2/src/branch/master/xs.h#L1062-L1074

#snac

@mcp

Il problema fondamentale di "web biologico" e "organic web" è che in realtà il web è fatto primariamente di elettroni/fotoni che si muovono (tipicamente oscillano) lungo cavi.

Mi rendo conto che questa descrizione riduttiva lo priva di qualunque poesia, ma è utile a comprendere perché "organic" e "biologico" sono difficilmente applicabili ad artefatti tecnologici.

Il rischio animista è sempre dietro l'angolo: definire (e dunque pensare) un artefatto elettromeccanico come "vivo" (biologico) è estremamente pericoloso, come lo è parlare di "intelligenza artificiale", "machine learning", "esseri tecnici" (per ricitare Carlo Milani) o "macchine cognitive" (per citare @enriconardelli)

Forse, bisognerebbe riflettere meglio sulle radici profonde dell'analogia: cosa accomuna ciò di cui parliamo al cibo biologico?

La cura?
Direi di no, perché il software BigTech è curatissimo.

La natura "locale" dei contenuti?
Forse.

Il fatto che non esista per causare dipendenza?
Forse.

Più domande che risposte... scusate. :-)

@_elena

@mcp

PS: Naturalmente è Carlo Milani, non Marco... scusate il lapsus.

@_elena

@mcp @_elena

Non un'idea, ma una segnalazione: ciò di cui parla Elena ricorda molto i principi del #PermaComputing: https://permacomputing.net/Principles/

In italiano, karlessi (Marco Milani) parla di Tecnologie Conviviali: https://www.eleuthera.it/materiale.php?op=2699

Una definizione che però (a mio parere) non esprime interamente il concetto (contrariamente al permacomputing, che però non saprei come tradurre in italiano).

@_elena

While I like the analogy in many ways, comparing #BigTech with junk food does not show how dangerous they are for people (kids and teens in particular, for the long term effects they have on their brain¹ and for the effects such damage will have on the whole society they live in).

On the pros side, full awareness of the damage caused by personal data collection and manipulation² scare people so much they often prefer to "not look up": many prefer to be unknowing puppets, than to accept they have been tricked and reduced to puppets and fight back.
It's easier to relegate the whole thing to "conspiracy theory".

And one of the reason they do so is they can't see alternatives or are manipulated to dismiss them non viable or uninteresting.

Maybe your analogy might promote one of such alternatives (the #fediverse) better.

____

PS: I really appreciated your tracker-free website.

These days it's pretty rare and precious to find a cute and well curated website free of trackers.

To me, tracker-free is a sign of professionalism and respect for the people who visit and read a website, making it useful and valuable.

I didn't see anybody thanking you for this aspect so I do: thanks!

¹ see https://academic.oup.com/psyrad/article/doi/10.1093/psyrad/kkad001/7022348

² see for example https://video.linuxtrent.it/w/sWFcXj4DpWPTkvdi7jA61u?start=24m8s

@mikeyp

Indeed @_elena's article remind me of #PermaComputing and #PermaWeb.

https://permacomputing.net/Principles/
https://perma-web.net/en/