@toxomat

I would have been happy if she just accepts evidence that is agains her conclusions just so others who use the list have an informed decision rather than a very intentionally cherry picked set of "gotchas" with everything proving it to be a lie just hidden away.... shows a lack of integrity to say the least.

@ceoln @PaulaToThePeople @SecondJon @shelenn

@freemo @toxomat @ceoln @PaulaToThePeople @SecondJon @shelenn It’s really disappointing that no one is interested in listening to unblocking qoto of those who are blocking us and delisting us. I think ample reasoning has been provided.

It doesn’t look like there is a solution and even though it unfairly affects us it’s their decision. Just wanted to register my disappointment.

I feel like they have adopted the right wing mantra that saying free speech is hate speech. Then it becomes a blank check to block any group of people you don’t like.

@derickflorian @freemo @toxomat @ceoln @PaulaToThePeople @SecondJon @shelenn Eh, I'm of the mind that there's no reason to get upset about it. QOTO doesn't block servers, so the servers decided to block themselves. It's self-selected curation. Anyone who wants their eyes shielded by another for arbitrary reasons is probably not the kind of curious, inquisitive person that I prefer interacting with on social media anyway.
All one can do is try to publicize the fiasco so that those who are curious can leave the draconian servers and come to the light of reason and open discussion.

@LouisIngenthron @freemo @toxomat @ceoln @PaulaToThePeople @SecondJon @shelenn That is a good point and I agree with everything you say, but I think the part that gets me is that they are making the decision to not see on behalf of others.

I guess the best action is to just continue on and keep bring attention to it and the United Federation of Instances seems like a good vehicle/countermeasure for that.

I do like the community on QOTO and all the other instance I have the pleasure of interacting with. I have blocked a lot of instances in the list that was shared by my own choice so it’s not an entirely bad list.

I just wanted to vent. It just seems like one block after another for the flimsiest of reasons but your approach is definitely the correct one.

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There are absolutely servers on that list that deserve a personal block! I like the idea, in general, of there being a variety (a small variety, probably, to avoid needing second-level lists of lists) of shared Blocklists of various kinds. There just needs to be a certain amount of pressure to be open and transparent (and accurate) about list criteria, and I'm happy to be a small part of that pressure now and then.

In the short run it would be excellent if the list could be updated (if it hasn't already been) to say something correct in the qoto entry. Even for the sake of the list itself: since a brief glance at qoto will show that "no moderation, free speech" is inaccurate, it undermines the credibility of the whole thing.

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