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I have to admit, I'm a bit surprised we have self-driving cars before self-driving trains...

@freemo you're right, I never thought about this before

@Ox Yea makes me giggle when I think about it. Also interesting to reflect on why. Large corperations can afford for one driver for a few hundred people at a time. There isnt much need to automate it. But still counter intuitive.

@shit well sorta... just that hiring a person is cheaper than automating it. Its the same reason we see hikes in minimum wage result in more automation.

@freemo train guys are in a rly good union and make super good money way more than minimum wage monkeys

@shit Well no im not saying the conductors are int he exact same situation. Because one conductor can service **many** people, and because there is a liability risk over those people, well it makes for a unique situation beyond simple wage.

@freemo cause that's a buzzword you can't quite attach to a train?

"This high speed train has an automatic speed control!"
- uhm... sure... good for you... I mean, what's the big deal it's on tracks anyway right?

"Planes autopilot bla bla bla..."
- uhm... sure... planes are a big deal of course they'll have that... but, I mean, how much stuff is there in the sky to collide with anyway?

"self-driving car"
- Whaaaaa?! Unbelievable! Tell me MOREEE! Can I have oneeeee???

If there was some sort of a "next gen self driving train" project, that presented no actual objective value to the industry right now, you likely never heard of it. "Self-driving car" can survive on the buzz alone until it becomes actually useful or is deprecated.

@freemo you know, there is a though stream that imposes over of what ever you can think about transportation where autonomous car stands for autonomous freedom. Car has to mean for freedom in our society. Thus, this is our sign of time right now. No one can oppose to the car thinking, Ford, GM and others estabilished this long time ago. Bandits, cowboys and other solitaritely free caracters are the arquetipe of the people who wants to own a car, a horse, his liberty... It is very difficult for me to express all this thoug because of my poor english but hope you can understand whaths underlies those previus sentences. Hehehe

@freemo I think it is a case of being more comfortable with taking risks ourselves, than with allowing those same risks to be taken by someone else on our behalf... agency is a thing.

@freemo Great point.
On the other side - nobody is brave to drive thousands tons beast with thousands of people inside by computer with possible software bug.

@freemo Even, self-driving cars are able to inspect situation hundreds of meters in advance. Not kilometers as required for stopping a train...

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