Good morning everyone. How are you today?
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@n0btc Doing very well here, yourself?
@freemo doing well. Really liking pinafore.
@n0btc Nice, been hearing a lot of good things about pinafore
@freemo yeah. Its a really good ui and has great accessibility for screen reader users like myself.
@n0btc I will have to check it out sometime. I know our other moderator @design_RG talks about it and likes it too.
And, my own proposal for a Better UI for us PC users.
Presented and discussed in this topic - https://qoto.org/@design_RG/103325180771011468
..but alas, Nolan didn't want to handle two display columns, a big change from all the work he has already done.
@design_RG
sent my agreement from Pinafore. i like it too🐘
@freemo @n0btc
@design_RG
sorry, I do not quite understand what does panels pina mean here, would you mind describing more details?
Sure, not a problem.
Pinafore displays Toot and notifications in a single vertical Panel, similar to the default Mastodon Web client in that sense.
What you see in your own Pinafore, it's a single vertical Column, a Panel of information.
And on my 1600 pixels wide screen - sh1t, there's SO MUCH wasted space, not even funny.
That is the main reason I don't use Pinafore exclusively. It is light, fast, has great features and as i mentioned, it's for Elite Users. I have about 10 instances fully configured -- and can switch from one to another with ONE click. No kidding.
But... Proper use of a wide screen display is something I have lifted the flag for sometime ago. That Topic is from December, 2019.
I went in person to Mastodon.social and wrote to Eugen there -- showing my ideas. He saw and briefly commented, but he has too many things on his plate already.
My current solution is using the mastodon web client BUT --- Turbo enhanced to max performance and Space usage.
What hopefully someday main stream Mastodon could be.
See 800 pixels screenshot here, attached. Full size, 1600 pixels wide -- for details --> https://i.postimg.cc/02Hj4jhS/Masto-AWI-RG.jpg
Notice a few things :
* NO wasted space at sides!
* TWO large, Wide panels, which can display Local and Notifications, or any other combination you like.
* See the BIG Toot Editor, where I am writing this mega reply?
Yeah, that's a Tool for Writers. 😃
I can't live with the limitations of regular vanilla clients. Need Power Tools, for productivity.
#QotoJournal is adequate, this is an Important discussion to have #mastodev #mastodon #UI
Recipe for above described Setup?
Discourse Forum topic with details and illustrations : https://discourse.qoto.org/t/setting-up-the-advanced-web-interface-for-mastodon-full-use-of-wide-screens/150/3
* I am using here mastodon WebClient in AWI mode enabled.
* and the Total Screen use is made possible by the Collapsed Mastodon Add-on for Firefox, (also available for Chrome).
* which is what give me the oh-so-great freaking BIG Reply box. Under Every Post I need. It won't be so large, by default, but it EXPANDS as I type away.
Good ideas deserve to be Seen. Wish Eugen would consider those. Collapsed Mastodon is on a Git repository, it's open sourced too.
Long post
@design_RG @Sphinx @freemo so, i dont hardly ever use a desktop for reading. The screen reader on android is much better than orca for linux. So, when i want to read i use my phone. Therefore i am a mobile first user where the multi column thing doesnt apply. I actually think desktop apos are to busy with to many functions on one screen.
Ah, I see, and Nolan has taken a lot of care and attention to the acessibilty issues people brought up front when he was working on Pinafore.
We all have different needs and wish for tools that best fit them. I am glad you found a nice solution for the mobile device, and since you are not depending on the visual display as most of us, it is probably a great tool for you.
Discussing people's ideas and needs is a great way to map the road ahead! 😄
@Sphinx @freemo
I made a Discourse Forum post with the Same content as the post above, but Enhanced Formatting that makes it easier and more pleasurable to read.
Please forgive my long tirade, Robot Pirate, it's just that it is a passion issue for me.
Now copied and formatted nicely in Discourse, and it will be on my Blog soon - I love it as my platform of choice for Content Production.
@freemo @design_RG have a look