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I have an odd craving for a cheap dutch beer for some reason....
@freemo Soooo, Heineken? Our most exported piss!
@trinsec No I said a beer, heineken isn't beer
@trinsec I forget the spelling of the one I want/liked.. something like "Jan Hertog" named after some dutch baron from a few hundred years ago
This is Mur 
Being drunk is fairly enjoyable, though not really worth the negative health effects long term or the next day.
I'm kinda glad for many of the fun times I had when I was drunk, they were great memories and a fun time. But the next day is always so bad as to remind me not to do it again for a long time :)
As the Irish say: Every moment of pleasure must be purchased with an equal moment of pain... about what I'd expect the irish to say :)
By that definition would you say some people never get drunk no matter how much they drink, even if they drink so much as to be passing out due to intoxication?
I know people who can drink almost any amount and turn into an asshole. I know others who are generally funny and loving no matter how much they drink right up until the point they pass out.
to me tipsy and drunk are two different levels of intoxication and not two types of personalities.
@freemo I don't hang around in pubs anymore. All my buddies have moved on with their lives. From students to responsible adults now, so yeah.. Not seeing much drunkards lately. ;) So all I have now is vague memories and that I don't like dealing with people who think logic doesn't apply to them, heh.
Thankfully none of my friends are alchoholics. Those people always find some way to reason that they are, in fact, not addicted. It's amazing. One alcoholic I knew even told me he hid the booze in his underwear drawer but he certainly is not an alcoholic...
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...WHY? Why the fuck would you do that? Unless you're an addict?! They just don't see it!
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@trinsec @freemo @mur2501 they are doing that as alcoholism isn't viewed as a sickness but as a weakness. our societies don't like weaklings, especially when it's due to their own actions. they usually perfectly know that they have a problem, but they won't admit it because then they'll be shunned by society.
alcohol roughly triggers the same response in the brain as benzodiazepines. thus i'd say that nearly every case of alcoholism is self-treatment of other issues. nobody shits on people on medication for anxiety, but if you are told often enough that those are weak people, you'll rather use alcohol than get treatment.
it doesn't have to be plain telling them that they are weak, i think the advertising everywhere and seeing other people being happy seemingly without effort is enough to get the message through.
