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As of the moment it appears 111 **known** instances have defederated to some degree from Mastodon.social. Most likely unknown instance count is much higher.
People are claiming this is a result on the article I wrote, which largely cited facts with photo evidence and effectively accused Eugen of caving to a Nazi's agenda.
I do **not** want to see anyone defederating from mastodon.social. However, my article presented the facts, made no suggestion to anyone to defederate. If those those facts cause people to get mad with Eugen and defederate, so be it, thats his fault for not being a better person, for not having a discussion about his decisions. I wont take blame simply for exposing truths, the reprocusions are on him not me.
The irony is what is happening to him is the same thing happening to me as explained in that article. The difference is what is happening to me is largely fueled by lies which Ive disproven. Cant say the same about Eugen
Anyway, I do hope all of you will stop defederating and start talking. I'd much rather see people try to talk to Eugen and tell him why he is wrong and get him to be better than anything else. Perhaps stand up to the misinformation you hear as well and do some fact checking so #QOTO doesnt get wrongly accused of lies while your at it.
@louis Yea, there is a bit of poetic justice to it I suppose, even if its not how I want to see things go down.
@freemo Society does this, that's why there's countries independent from one another. The internet is the same as land. Domains and servers are real estate. The earth wasn't born with borders other than land and sea, we made them. So let's assume there will be multiple federations. What will the passports look like? Will there be flags? Will any of them ever transition into a legitimately recognized nation? While these are dangerous questions.. they're legitimate.
Hello @freemo can you please link to the article you wrote, I just want some context to this situation, thanks!
This is so stupid. I just love the mastodon infighting. This always happens again and again and again.
<NOOOOOOOO YOU'RE THE EVIL NUTZEES
nigga this mastroondon drama is NUTS
i love how the people who pretend to be so virtuous are always the ones who will gladly fuck one other over. mastodon should have this logo. i still remember in the beginning calling eugen a pussy for not implementing i think it was Quote posting because he said it promoted toxic behavior or some bullshit like that but look at him now. so that pussy fart is now being accused of supporting the
nazi agenda that is some gay shit.
its like it attracts this shit. i had this from the very beginning. like with the gnu social axis when he was trying to take over.
most are mastodon.
its also once you have freedom all of these very hard moderated mastodon instances seem very fucking lame. i have tried some and its a totally different culture where admins and mods are always up your ass or you get reported for some lame shit.
i always had one on this server. i had older accounts on this server but lost the password. now i use a password manger to keep all my fedi accounts. i even had one when it was still a gnu social instance. i have others some old some newer. but i will never again make one on one of these heavily moderated Kindergartens that suck the fun out of everything and especially when you know you could have so much more fun somewhere else
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yes but pleroma came later for a time it was only gnu social and mastodon. and then the gnu social axis was formed because mastodon was trying to make every server mastodon and as you know mastodon is developed by fucking pussies. and when pleroma came along all the gnu social axis server switched to pleroma. that's where that whole pleroma is for Nazis free speech shit started.
all the twitter twats basically came to be made fun of and to prove a theory: that a twitter user won't last more than a month on fedi
@freemo I read your article, I wasn't aware of the drama happening behind the scene, I don't know much about Eugen, but as much as I read about him I had the impression he's left leaning person, so I was surprised by your article title.
I don't think that title is fair to be honest, because most people won't read the article and just assume that Eugen is a NAZI sympathizer, especially because it's coming from you and your opinion hold some weight.
As far as I understand the situation from the article, some internet trolls manage to spam this instant with NAZI props, because of that other instances defeded from QOTO. Reaching out to those instances exacerbated the situation which made Eugen delist QOTO from the joinmastodon.
Delisting QOTO from joinmastodon is messed up, but I don't think that proves that Eugen caves to NAZI's agenda.
I am not here to defend Eugen, I am traying to see what is happening from a neutral lenses.
The most likely scenario is that Eugen had some false informations about what was happening in QOTO and decided to just delist to quiescent the situation and move on with his live.
The main reason I joined qoto is because I read somewhere that this instance don't defed from others, so I can reach and read from people all over the fediverse and not stay in one instance bubble. That all I care about and I think what most people do. The second reason is that this instance is stable no downtime and my data is safe and secure. This by itself is amazing and great accomplishment, people don't give credit enough to the sysadmin work.
There are some activist, (far left and far right) that crave (like dopamine) for internet drama I hope that Dr. Freemo don't take the bait and fuel that drama with drastique changes, i.e. defeding from other instances and writing inflammatory articles.
In this instance I have all the tools available to deal with trolls and content I don't want to see, I don't need a sysadmin daddy to moderate the content for me, I am always against that.
Let's get back to science article posting and let the activist (let and right) scream into the the void abyss. (pun intended)
@voidabyss He is generally left leaning, but only so far as its popular with the left.. he will cave on a dime to anti-left agenda so long as it is popular to do so.
Delisting QOTO from joinmastodon is messed up, but I don’t think that proves that Eugen caves to NAZI’s agenda.
He knew the Nazi’s agenda, he knew it was having the intended effect, he caved to that agendas effect.. While he may of done it purely to be popular the truth is he DID cave to their agenda.
The main reason I joined qoto is because I read somewhere that this instance don’t defed from others, so I can reach and read from people all over the fediverse and not stay in one instance bubble. That all I care about and I think what most people do. The second reason is that this instance is stable no downtime and my data is safe and secure. This by itself is amazing and great accomplishment, people don’t give credit enough to the sysadmin work.
Thank you, I’d say these are true
Let’s get back to science article posting and let the activist (let and right) scream into the the void abyss. (pun intended)
The drama is over at this point, now we are working on a solution… we are working to build a “United Federation of Instances” with the intent of addressing this issue for QOTO and other instances in the future.
@freemo From a far left perspective this instance might seem like a right wing propaganda free speech heaven and from the far right perspective this instance might seem like an LGBTQ+ communist safe space.
Both sides crave for dominance and narrative control. Spamming NAZI props to an instance that don’t play along with their narrative it’s a classical attack tactic that both sides use.
The most important part is that both type of activists don’t respond to logic nor constitution, they just care about their propaganda, creating drama and discourse i.e. dopamine rush, it’s impossible to cater to all their wants.
As long there is effective mesures to block large DDOS/SPAM attack on the instance level and for responsible individuals to deal with trolls and unwanted content this is by far enough to create a healthy and expending community with diverse opinions
@voidabyss I disagree, the end result of that are far-left and far-right silos, and silos for every other interest group.. the far-anything will always be isolated by the very consequence of being an extremist. They are welcome to isolate themselves. The UFI is intended for those who want to be part of the greater community, within certain reasonable limits.
@freemo I read through your article
https://jeffreyfreeman.me/more-lies-from-the-fediverse/
My impressions is that you are trying to engage in good faith with some admins in the fediverse, but those admins have preconceived notion or in bad faith (in my opinion) decided to defame your character taking out of context some of your social interactions, jokes or statements.
I saw in the emails that you are trying to appeal to them and appease their concerns. Some of those admins might see that as weakness or an admission of their bias against you.
I don’t know how to cater to those type of individuals without loosing your principales and unique character.
Those folks label anyone that they don’t like as NAZIs
e.g
I think itβs clear that this list was >made for technical information >sharing first and foremost. >Therefore, considering that >these people are a) concern->trolling to derail the topic here, b) >historically (and still) nazis, far->right, or close to people who are, >and c) generally assholes, their >input to this space is not wanted.
I don’t see how engaging with them in good faith would be any productive.
@freemo Karma is a bitch π°