🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@Ovrld81 I'm pretty sure everyone does. I was scared shitless the first dozen times i dove. Thats what motivated me, to get over the fear.

@Ovrld81 You're welcome.

@OutOnTheMoors But isnt that the same on both sides. Knowledge of how twitter works can apply to either side. A troll who knows how twitter works can avoid getting banned and get others banned by reporting them when they violate the rules. But you have the same power, by knowing the rules of twitter you can avoid saying the things that get you banned and would be immune and similarly report trolls if they curse.

With that said I do agree it is still a problem your seeing. But the problem that you have moderation taking place that you disagree with. My solution is that no one ever gets moderated, so problem solved.

@OutOnTheMoors
I would say that is more like easily offended tyranny. You were blocked because people might be offended by a curse word.

@wolfen Well you unfollowed me like 5 minutes after you followed me. Could be part of the problem ;)

@OutOnTheMoors If either of you had your account block then twitter was in the wrong (by my ideal social media standards) and would be an example of "tyranny of the easily offended", since your being banned over someone being offended by something when they could easily just block you or not engage.

So I'm not suggesting twitter made the right call here. If you were blocked you probably feel twitter should have blocked the other guy, I argue the proper solution is to let you use the tools you have at your disposal to do it yourself.

@OutOnTheMoors I left twitter for the opposite reason, they are far too quick to block people and appealing such a process is impossible.

This is what i was getting at, two groups of people come to mastodon. Those who want everything and anything censored that could even remotely offend someone, and those who want free speech as the top priority.

Most people who come from twitter see it as failing on either side of that bargain.

@l Anytime

@l yup, add the column you want, then hit the little slider bar icon in the top right. Then click the pin option. this will lock that column down and create a new dynamic one. The default columns can also be removed by unpinning them.

@OutOnTheMoors The difference in my mind i that

1) hate speech is a matter of opinion and what is hate speech to one person is not to another.

2) in a free space zone people can of course block anyone who bothers them, so if your easily offended you can still get your wish and block everything in sight. So there is no "tyranny of the troll". So in my eyes your really just exchanging freedom for tyranny of the easily offended.

Of course if thats what you want, by all means go for it. But I prefer a world where the individual has control over what they hear and say with the freedom to say anything they want to anyone who listens.

@OutOnTheMoors
red = free speech zone
blue = Heavily censored/moderated

@OutOnTheMoors Part of the issue I'm seeing in this thread is the fact that mastodon is split between red and blue instances rather strongly, with blue blocking red. In some ways it creates two separate communities at the server level.

@OutOnTheMoors If it is an issue unique to migrating have you opened a github issue?

@OutOnTheMoors I'm running an instance here myself. The federation process is automatic, if you follow someone that person becomes federated to the whole server. Furthermore people can follow you from servers you aren't federated with.

The only way a person cant follow someone from another instance is if the person or instance is explicitly banned.

Unless you are talking about someone running an instance with some modified code I'm unaware of?

@OutOnTheMoors Maybe I'm missing something but those things sound like they would be impossible to avoid. Wouldn't you need to create the account before you migrate to it? Also wouldn't the lost followers be due to an instance being blocked, and if so isn't that unavoidable?

@OutOnTheMoors I think that may be two seperate issues. One is providing some getting-started tips, the other being a community for getting help.

Perhaps using the mastodon lists feature for this might make sense?

@descartez What dont you like about twitter that you feel Mastodon might provide?

@descartez Welcome aboard! I'm new here myself, jumped right in by starting up my own mastodon instance with some tweaks (wasnt happy with my choices).

What brought you here?

@OutOnTheMoors I've never migrated an account, I'd be curious to hear what the pitfalls may be.