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@ok_sweetie@switter.at As with any country how nice the netherlands happens to be depends on what you look for. If you like straight forward people who care more about honesty you feeling bad, then the dutch are great, its why I'm here! Americans are the opposite they are sweet as pie to your face and youd never know if they hated you guts.

@OutOnTheMoors Technically that is true of Mastodon as well. The rules are almost never explicit and are up to the owners whim from one day to the next.

@OutOnTheMoors Well thats still moderation, its just very very poorly done moderation. But in my view almost all moderation is bad moderation (the exception being any user circumventing personal bans by starting new accounts).

The problem is even when you have real life people moderating you have exactly the same problems sometimes. Particularly when that moderation depends on the moderators personal opinions rather than objective rules.

All that said I still havent heard a good argument of why we even need any moderation at all outside of some edge cases.

@ok_sweetie@switter.at You're welcome. Yea everyone here is in a frenzy like its mating season or something :) Where are you from/at?

@Ovrld81 There is plenty out there. I dive wrecks all the time!

@OutOnTheMoors Well thats the problem when big corporations own social media. I agree twitter is a failure and that is one example why. The only point we disagree on is how they and other networks should moderate.

@Ovrld81 St. Croix is my favorite because the dive itself is amazing, has a very steep wall, can easily accommodate shallow and deep dives, and is close to one of my homes.

@Ovrld81 I am what is called a technical scuba diver. Which is considered "professional" in the sense that it is the highest level of certification you can get and can do "Deep Ocean" diving. I am not a professional in the sense that I don't use it to make (much) money.

@Ovrld81 If you are in one of those tanks you already screwed up :)

@Ovrld81 I guess the question is, do you want to face the fears and get over it or not ;)

@Ovrld81 You should have a healthy fear of the bends, if you are reckless and you dive you can get it. With that said if your well trained and follow all the rules its very safe, particularly at shallower depths.

@Ovrld81 Well most of us like the freedom to be able to move around and interact :)

With that said its actually pretty common and easy to pay for a similar setup. Its just the helmet, no body, but you stand upright and the air is pumped from the surface. They have it at almost every tropical destination you can hope for. Can't go too deep though.

@Ovrld81 Sounds like what you really want is one of those hard-shell diving suits. The air is pumped from the surface and you are at normal pressure.

@OutOnTheMoors Well that is true of Mastodon too. Each mastodon instance must follow the laws in the country it exists. As such you are subject to the laws of whatever country the server you use happens to be in

With that said I do agree it partially solves the problem since you can join any server you want, thus pick the rules/laws you want.

But I also think this is a divergence from the topic of blue vs red. Twitter is a failure to both blue and red minded users.

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