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@louis That is how the term is used by the bulk of liberals these days, as a term to refer to the autism spectrum specifically.

When someone asks you "Are you neurodivergent?" If you answered with "Yea I think I have thought patterns that are atypical"... they would respond "no no no, I mean are you autistic"...

As of the last year or two almost everyone using that word now uses it to mean autistic.

@louis

As a word to mean "someone who thinks differently"I have no objection. It is when people try to hijack it to mean "autistic and/or ADHD" specifically. usually anytime someone is running full speed on the euphemism treadmill its a good indication you dont want to hear a word they have to say.

@realcaseyrollins

As in, using it as a word to describe autistic and ADHD people exclusively.. like if you go "Are you neurodivergent?" as a question you might ask to mean "Are you autistic and/or ADHD?"

If someone uses the term there is a 100% chance their opinion will make you dumber.

inb4: I am only speaking of people who use the term neurodivergent, not people who are autistic or have ADHD.

@MartyFouts

If a particular piece of knowledge were publicly known I'd know it, as I am part of the public. Not sure what you mean.

@SecurityWriter

@MartyFouts

I'm not claiming the project was never compromised. I'm pointing to the fact that none of them are public knowledge and I can only presume I was only witness to a very very small percentage of projects.

So the point stands, anyone who has had a clearance is well aware of just how many massive projects there are that remain secret enough to not be known to the general public.

@SecurityWriter

@realcaseyrollins @br00t4c

> has won almost every debate I've seen him in from what I can remember. Those debates won him the election the first time around. There are certainly people who could beat in a debate, but he has yet to debate them.

I dont think he has ever "won" a debate, and frankly I dont think his performance at the debates had the slightest thing to do with if he won or not.

@whitemice @SecurityWriter

There are **plenty** of large top secret projects kept for longer than 3 years. I dunno what to tell you, but anyone who has worked on top secret stuff knows well that the government has little trouble keeping large secrets over long periods of time.

Also since we are talking about some conspiracy theorist supposidly claiming this or that is happening, then it isnt kept secret, if it were true every single conspiracy anyone ever claimed happened was one that was failed to keep secret and was leaked. So its a bit of a moot point since they are specifically asking you to beleive something that WAS leaked.

@MartyFouts

Absolutely incorrect. I have had clearance and can tell you it is perfectly legal to mention you have had or have clearance. In fact when looking for work it is usually the first thing a job that needs clearance will ask, if you had or have had clearance.

@SecurityWriter

@realcaseyrollins @br00t4c

I dunno this is a bizzare statement. He was barely neck and neck with a dude with dementia. Most 5 year olds could out debate Trump. I usually spend most of the debates laughing at the dumb shit Trump says.

@SecurityWriter

IOf you think we dont have massive secret bleeding edge tech projects still active today... i mean all I can say is I can tell you from personal experience as a person who has had top level clearance and worked on many govt projects... yes there are plenty such projects and not one of them is known to the public... obviously i wont say what they are (id wind up in jail)... but I can say such things exist.

@freemo Well, you're describing only one motivation of many for veganism, but for that particular motivation, I'd generally agree.

That said, making the personal choice to abstain may not necessarily translate into wanting to impose that decision on others... i.e. someone can simultaneously be both pro-choice and decide that an abortion would never be morally appropriate for themselves.

@louis All reasonable points. I do assume we are talking about ethical vegans opposed to killing and not health vegans or best-for-society vegans (econology).

And yea, I could also see consistent logic in being vegan and not being willing to have an abortion yourself but also wanting it to be legal for others. That said if a vegan took that stance of abstain-but-legal to truely be consistent they would have to also they they feel the sale of meat should remain legal and would oppose any effort to outlaw meat on ethical grounds.

@SecurityWriter

While I totally agree with you that most conspiracy theories are complete BS, and I hate to say anything to give them any sort of credit, I have to disagree with your premise.

We as a nation have kept massive projects secret successfully on many occasions (only having the public learn about it after its made public many years later). In fact they are masters at doing that and use many techniques including compartmentalization to make it possible despite the incompetance of individuals.

In short the ability to keep large operations secret is not just theoretically possible, it is proven to be possible (manhatten project for example).

what keeps us largely from having such massive conspiracy theories that are harmful to society as a whole but beneficial to an elite few isnt so much incompetence to keep secrecy... its the general morality of people. Truely evil people are rare, and people will only keep a secret effectively if they feel it is morally justified. If the people working on the Manhatten project felt it was contrary to the greater good of society as a whole they probably would have leaked the secret , or atleast, a small few might have.

I wonder how many vegans are agaisnt abortion after 1 month on the grounds it has a brain (granted not to the level of sophistication of an adult human)... I also wonder how they could possibly reconcile that with their vegan position.

As a side note prior to 1 month the fetus has no neurons, so i can see an abortion as "vegan" prior to 1 month. But an abortion after one month i cant see any way to justify that as compatible with veganism.

Please feel free to share your thoughts if you wish.

@br00t4c I'd be curious to see how well she debates... I mean no chance I will vote for her (or Trump)... but I suspect she would be a better debater than Biden or Trump at least. A low bar to say the least.

@medley56 On that I agree. If he ha just said he didnt want to engage I'd have had no issue with it. I do like to respond to people out of respect but I have no issue with the other party engaging or not.

β€œWhether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”

-- Henry Ford

@medley56

Huh how am I not chill? He threw a fit and blocked me before i made my reply, I just replied for public view. I have no issue with my behavior but if you think i didnt act "chill" feel free to show me how so i can improve.

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