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@Janef @maccruiskeen

If thats what he is doing then that is problematic.

@PaulDavisTheFirst @maccruiskeen @DelRider

In disagreement?

@PaulDavisTheFirst @maccruiskeen @DelRider

Yea it 2as clear that was your point
And mine is the fact that you and others hold that opinion is exactly why moat journalists wouldnt knownamfact if it bit them in the ass.

@PaulDavisTheFirst @maccruiskeen @DelRider

Exactly my point there is a completemlack of journaliatic integrity. I agree that virtually no one anymore adhere to the fairly universally agreed to ethical expectations for a journalist.

@PaulDavisTheFirst @maccruiskeen @DelRider

I jusy checked by the way. The uk code of conduct by the journalists union does, in fact, have similar languahe regarding impartiality. It uses thr term "fair" in a very similar way. There are also rules agaibst endorsements

@PaulDavisTheFirst @maccruiskeen @DelRider

Americas abandonment of tbis principle and the fact that the UK never had iynis thr very reason why journalism in both countries couldnt get a fact right ifnit bit them in the ass.

She truly was a brilliant writer...

@maccruiskeen @DelRider

No it doesnt, but it would be contrary to such principle when the editorial board has bias int heir narrative overall. Its fine to share an opinionated and biased article, when labeled as such, under the newspaper (editorial), so long as opposing view supporting the other candidates are equally welcomed and highlighted. So long as the overall narrative remains neutral there is no problem with individual articles having a bias, and being labeled as such.

I'd read it.

@TheOldGuy

I have two criteria:

1) No praising hitler
2) No past support of genocides.

Unfortunately that means I have to vote third party.

How often does a day go by where the oldest person in the world dies on that day?

@vivo

I think there are many issues at play here, some of which i dont have enough info to speculate on, others I probably do.

A news paper can have an "editorial" section with opinions of course, the key being that it doesnt favor one narrative or set of opinions over another. The proper news section of course is held to a higher standard and shouldnt express opinion of the journalist at all, an the journalist themselves need to be impartial.

@dangillmor

@Janef

I have made who I endorse quite clear on my feed many many times, and it is neither Trump nor Harris.

@maccruiskeen @dave @dangillmor

@Janef

Wow, not even going to respond to that. I think it stands as absurd in its own right, doesnt need me to expand on that... Good luck with that.

@dangillmor

@DelRider

> The notion that past newspapers were fair, balanced, and neutral is a modern concoction, not a historical one.

That wasnt the claim. The claim is that there were principles of journalistic integrity, not that all the newspapers managed to live up to that standard.

I can speak the same for the constitution. The principles were great "all men created equal". That doesnt change as a good principle or standard just because people didnt always follow it.

@maccruiskeen

@maccruiskeen Fair. I am in no way claiming his motivations are good or not, I dont know that guy. All I am saying is the choice is the correct ethical one, regardless if ethics are what motivated the choice or not.

Now if he IS endorsing Trump and **only** not endorsing Harris than as far as ethical decisions go, that wouldnt be one either.

@maccruiskeen

No, newspapers that didnt follow the ethics were, at the time, called "yellow rags" and generally treated by the general public as disreputable. Obviously in modern times journalistic integrity is at an all time low, so this sort of deplorable behavior is sadly the norm now.

Remember these rules were established by the society most journalists were a part of, so it was the consensus ethically.

@dave @dangillmor

@dave

For at least a century. One such example is the 1923 ethical rules adopted by the American Society of Newspaper Editors. Though the concept, perhaps not codified, goes back much farther than that.

@dangillmor