🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@FinalOverdrive Interesting point. I could see some future point where they can change your DNA, hormones, neural structure, genitals, the whole 9... That does worry me a bit, specifically going so far as to change your mind into one that reflects the other sex, as that is changing who you are fundementally... but that aside, yea, one day maybe.

@FinalOverdrive I wasnt implying you meant that. I was saying that is how you described the anti-trans liberals. So that was my take on that.

@FinalOverdrive

Hmm, yes i can see that. There are some liberals who view the differences between sex as a pure construct. I think thats a weak argument, as I think there is some genetic/hormonal influence that defines some of our differences. But I do appreciate teh sentiment of wants to ensure everyone is treated as equal.

@FinalOverdrive

One could argue you can change your sex from whatever it is to intersex, but never to one of the actual sexes. Typically sex is defined as a combination of features include: Genetics, sexual characteristics, hormones, etc. When all your characteristics line up with one sex or the other, thats the sex you are. You can change some but not all of those properties and thus when you do have mixed characteristics and would effectively more like an intersexed person at that point, albeit through artificial means.

That said the important part here is actually about how you treat someone, not what they "are" in a semantic definition. We agree on the most important part is that GENDER and not sex is what dictates our language and how we treat someone. Typically in language we mean gender, as we should, and not sex. Sex really only applies in medical contexts.

@FinalOverdrive

Ahh ok. I have not personally met a liberal type who wouldnt admit that a trans-womans **gender** is that of a woman. They might rightfully point out that sex and gender are different, if saying so is relevant to the conversation. But generally recognize them as gendered as women.

That said I dont want to minimize your experiences. If you met many liberals who treat trans-women that way that is very much ashame.

@FinalOverdrive

Im not sure i have any experience with the "liberal wing of transphobia""... Ive seen plenty of vile toxic behavior from liberals, but hating on someone for not looking feminine enough is not something I've personally witnessed from the liberal community in any proportion.

Do you have an example maybe of what you mean?

@realcaseyrollins

Yea we have almost always had that at QOTO too, i think the feature is like 4 years old here now. We use the follow button with different colors to indicate if you are followed back or not.

@louis

Of course not, that would be against their agenda of hate. Their only goal when they see something they dont understand is to try to make it suffer in the hope it will stop existing.

Republicans:

Trans-women arent women...
Muscular women arent women...
Tomboys arent women....

@lillyfinch

This is exactly why I **cant** vote blue. Harris's abuse of women, specifically trans-women, makes her unsuitable as a presidential candidate.

inb4: No Trump is no better, luckily there are 3+ other choices on the ballot other than those two.

@stux

Totally valid. Anything coming out of his mouth is almost always vile.

@LarryE992001

Biden had **more** than enough racism and hate all himself, not that I like Trump.

"If you dont vote for me you ain't black"

'poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids'

@stux

Con's of Trump winning: The end of the world

Pros of Trump winning: All the toxic Harris supports will be crying.

Almost worth the end of the world... almost.

@TheOldGuy The first two points are non issues, like its almost silly to bring it up. The last one im 100% with, i thought that was weird when I read the quote too.

Best response...

Facts

Started a new company this year and we are going to be at about 25 full time workers by the end of the year.

I have never seen such rapid growth at any company I worked, let alone my own. But the success is amazing, I literally spent a whole year hiring as fast as I could and still cant keep up with the growth!

@chris

I disagree, I loved it. It was funnier and actual had some backstory building. The original was shallow and lacked the depth.

@Tzipporah Congratulations!