🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@FreePietje

It isnt an entierly different discussion. When part of your tactic is to protest schools it is no longer a seperate discussion but rather vital to the current one.

Yes we need action, it isnt the study, from the perspective of scientists, that is lacking. What is lacking is the understanding int he general population which allows for climate change deniers to exist. This is the direct result of lack of good education and critical thinking skills.

All I know is most people around the world, including the dutch and americans, are dumb as bricks and are more than capable of being quite bright if they were educated. People just stop learning how to learn, and actually doing it, a long time ago.

The climate crisis is a direct result of this, it is why climate change deniers can thrive when its so easy to debunk.

@stevenroose

@FreePietje

Fair i had a similar feeling, the jeaousy remark wasnt the best of wording and drifted into personal. But it wasnt the worst of insults so i let it slide.

While i disagree with his main point and feel it is much more serious than he does I do respect his opinion all the same.

My problem with greta is simple. In an age where lack of education is causes climate change denial and for society itself to break down the most important thing we need right now is an environment that encourages people to be educated and well informed. Greta's movement is contrary to that and damaging more so than it is helpful.

Yes greta as Aspergers. Generally people with aspergers can perform very well in school, some dont. It may be this aspergers that is holding her back i dont know. But the fact is the factthat she is struggling to keep up with others her age is an indication she should be investing MORE time in school not less. If you are behind, whatever the reason, you are probably the last person who should be skipping school let alone encouraging others to do so.

@stevenroose

@stevenroose

Thats not the impression I get. Aside from Greta herself needing to be put in a special needs school I live in europe (the netherlands) and used to live in the USA. If there is one thing that is evident to me it is that the school in neither country "works well" We have kids coming out of school dumb as bricks and its a HUGE epidemic that needs addressing. When schools are so woefully inadequate the last thing we need are people proposing leaving it or agendas that dismiss its importance.

I dont think i exagerate the importance of those fridays at all, if anything i understate them. Not just the fridays but the need for MORE school, and BETTER school, not less. Society is so uneducated these days and so easily swayed by nonsense facts society is barely holding together right now.

@FreePietje

@stevenroose

I disagree that they are harming no one. Kids are already coming out of school dumb as bricks. Greta of all people was moving to a special needs school she fell so far behind. The damage is very real and in fact the underlieing cause of the climate issue. We need more education, more study, more rigour and understanding, not less.

If school really doesnt matter in sweden and belgium then you have a serious issue with your school system not educating student and that needs to be addressed. All the more so a message of "just skip school" has no place there if school is already doing poorly. If anything the message should be "study harder in school"

@FreePietje

@stevenroose

Well yea when you act like a child and become destructive (telling people to skip school) yea you will get attention for sure.

If someone trying to bring awareness to education urged people to dump toxic waste into a river every friday I can garuntee you he would get WAY more attention too.

Getting attention is not a good measure in isolation sadly.

@FreePietje

@stevenroose

They do work from 2-6 after school.

@FreePietje

@stevenroose Depends on the nation and the person. I spent most of my free time learning so I could have skipped a few fridays and be fine. However Greta and people like her are behind in school (she was held back into a special learning school if i recall correctly). The vast majority of students are dumb as bricks these days, yes they desperately need school.

People refusing to work is different than people refusing to LEARN. If adults took a day where they refused to read books or learn or go to school it would be just as idiotic.