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Today is the day the bell riots were supposed to begin from and yesterday was thr day thry arrived in the past.

@anubis2814 @stux @threalist

Homicide went down along with the world wide trend in australia. But violent crimes went up, specifically sexual assault and robbery both skyrocketed .

You can argue many countries are different, doesnt change thr fact that thebpattern ia seen in botb developed and undeveloped nations.

@anubis2814 @stux @threalist

Since we are talking abojt all homicide and violence, there is more than ample data.

@anubis2814 @shuro @stux

Again you do not xompare nations at all, that would be bad stats. You always compare a nation to itself both before and after a ban. In virtually all cases thenpattern is the same, huge increase in deaths following a ban that never fully recovers (but you do get partial rebound).

When im by the computer i can cind thr england data again. Its also been shown at the state levelnin thrbusa and again, deathtoll rises as well

@anubis2814 @stux @threalist

Just factually false. The reason you cant compare homicide rates to gun ratea across countries is due to confounding and isnt simply because some places are violent while others arent.

If you analyze the numbers according to proper scientific analysis where you loom at homicide rates before and after a change in gun laws kt cecomes very clear that banning guns in thr usa or anywhere else drastically increases violent crimes and homicide. I have posted thr stats on this countless times.

@nande I wouldnt doubt for a second he is playing some sort of game. Either he wants attention and free advertising or wants to save some money.

@nande All good, all im saying is technically its still about censorship. Brazils govt wanted something censored, musk didnt want it censored. Im mot saying musk was in the right, or that brazil was. Just saying it was fubdementally still about censorship.

@nande Because he is ok with some censorship and not others... not sure your point.

@nande Censoring bad people is still censorying. You can argue it is justified and moral to do, but you cant say it "isnt censorship".

@dcc @stux @realcaseyrollins

Its almost like "Cum hoc ergo propter hoc" is a logical fallacy or something... Who wulda thunk, not this scientist.

@stux

Not sure how you are confused.. when you make something illegal that is used to save your life when someone is trying to kill you with a knife, it isnt a win that you eliminated gun deaths and replaced them with being killed by other means.

Much as when making vaccines illegal you effectively will eliminate all deaths via vaccine, but now replace those deaths with even more deaths from the virus itself.

Same thing, not sure why that concept would confuse you.

inb4 be sure if you use numbers you compare netherlands to itself both before and after a change. Any other comparison would be dishonest due to confounding.

@VoxDei @allstartrek

I suspect thw thought crossed their mind, it is prpbably even explained in one of the official technical manuals.

@VoxDei @allstartrek

Think of it another way if we the viewers can infer from a single name who thry are referimg to ao could an advanced ai that sees and hears all

@VoxDei @allstartrek

I dont tbink it would go like that st all. It woukd assume you mean whatever smith you interact with the most unless your working on something that would strongly imply a specific smith. If you want someone other than your closest colleague by that name youd include a first name.

@diego

Whose BS, no one here actually made the claim you stated...

@stux

@VoxDei

I would argue its better explained by ai being able to.infer who is meant even if more than one person has that name. Whichnisnpretty trivial to do well.

@allstartrek

@shuro

Indeed they do. With virtually every country if you compare their violent crime and homicide rates both before and after a gun ban the rates sky rocket for many years after and never return to normal.

So yes there are more people dying as a result of their gun laws and that can be seen across most nations that have had gun bans and inferred to be the same effect in the netherlands.

Most of the data for this i have is for other countroes like england, ireland, jamaica, but sadly limited data on the netherlands on hand.

@stux

@stux

I
never claimed your post is factuallymincorrext. Just like it is factually correct making vaccines illegal will eliminate vaccine deaths.

Being factually correct isnt the same as interpriting the facts correcrly.

Foe the recors in my 40 years living in one of the biggest cities I have never once seen anyone threatened with a gun nor ha e i ever known a single person who has.. in fact tbe only time i was near to a mass shooting at all and witnessed gun violence was in the Netherlands.

@diego

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