@freemo @invidious And for the quotes returned, yes good quotes
thanks.

That's the TLDR.

Biggest thought / idea:

We pay people and employees to talk more about it all ?!! (seriously, more of a breakthrough idea than all the above!)

Could you offer some money for someone's 15min audio recording that we delete after taking text notes from?

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The rest you can read as 1st lines of each arrow points or not at all:

1 experimental question

As a mini-idea you could ask me questions or topics that is important to you or your people, any problems or relationship issues in your life *just* to see if I could record some audio for myself and work on it or think how it would work as 'work'

(even if I don't record some sort of "demand" or "need" seems to help if not a 'freestyling' a kind of exploration.

This half-need could help me answer something for me or even others to answer it themselves - almost the QOTO acronym.

YOU CAN END HERE /

/ THAT'S THE 2ND TLDR

2... 3... etc below is more about the quotes and other stuff related to you personally having strong relativity but somehow not a practical way to output / merge somehow. But largely I see experimenting or sending me /random being good so it's not just me talking but you sending me from your needs / exploration / tests...

2 The picture in my post was indeed that same common phrase, as you said popularly attributed to Edmund Burke, but I modified it to be more specific as a daily thing people need to do or else in my eyes the bad work starts / other practices and irresponsibility grows more.

Maybe literally this is life now happening that same way in our analysis here I guess of your life somewhat. You agree, want for, but don't do one-to-one's / have a way yet to achieve the other things less FOSS / STEM (which I think it makes it stronger coming around the people circle again).
this seems to match theory strongly and achieve better everything / connectivity

3 Exploring people or Conflict could be my role too but too late and too serious perhaps.

Projects and people have conflicts all the time since a lot is largely based on feelings, misconceptions, motivations etc leading to collapse in the end.
Someone to listen, even say the wrong thing and decide "no this" without it being the wrong person to do it with (a stranger sometimes).

But still doing things before conflicts makes better sense as learning and easier prevention.

4 Not saying the opposites as you're doing incredibly bad but if FOSS, STEM work itself doesn't integrate or self-check others often, then <shrug> what kind of Freemo's and Musk's do we expect?

Eventually people acting with machines mostly end up in a kind of fascism or binary thing (as machines not people equations) even if they are not the cause or the centre of it - what's left without people? It's the inaction too of their personal beliefs common in all life today that adds or doesn't add up after work which many people find out after quitting and only stay to have 'colleagues'.

Another way to say it

Good is not good if becomes a passive or theoretical thing more that actual practice / spreading of it.

So even if not daily - once a week as a quick feedback session would be good. Work on differences / enjoy them.

If it wasn't for privacy and trust listening to people recording themselves online I would sift through an audio recorded via https://vocaroo.com/ link (fairly private or non-public links) what do you think or this site?

Would be fun for me typing up any gems of feedback or points for others to help them develop things / themselves! (could be anonymous or otherwise). Main thing being a voice says it better.

If you had any audio notes or long sermons in the past I'd try typing them up and learning from them at the same time (have done if for a lot of YouTube videos)

5 So in my eyes the conclusion as a list for you seemed to be that even finding you as a "BEST CASE" SCENARIO + QOTO as a forum it's still strangely not enough;

even with your work,
abilities,
the non-profit and
QOTO,
your own strong personal thoughts about society improving and supporting things

So all that alignment in your life - it's not enough yet somehow. I feel like I've found a popular human anomaly or algorithm which if I could figure out would unlock things in others and allow them to express / work on things in their own way too.

Right now, somehow... nothing shouts at us to try... other than text / voice recordings (I also have low ping or intermittent making even live audio not possible so do offline recording and send via https://vocaroo.com/ )

6 When you said "if you ever do it" then you would support me? ....it's like "Yeah I am doing / trying / doing it daily with others!... and it's on your own QOTO pages !)... :)

It is a bit bizarre my dear fellow :) while accepting the end product isn't there other than people interacting on what they want...

I admit a bit of blind faith / fun and experimenting is needed unless we find that one thing to leverage from my time and will-power in these things / post.

#FreeSchool !

7 You are also supporting me by reading this so all is far from lost... but practical small tests are harder sometimes - writing too much too easy.

Must be a good way of finding out a reasoned way if not personal text and audio recordings. Must be some way that's practical but not all in FOSS or STEM necessarily.

Just too many things seem to match that list for you, listed with lots of 's above.

8 The above is what I'm facing - though I'm giving space to us to finding and experimenting...

So let's see how that goes because this is me doing it now...

Not giving up. But not sure of the name or way yet other than 'improve society' via one-to-one's to help people grow and find others... and many of my CW titles posts that give inspiration or tail to follow.

9 Imagine people believe, see how it would work better, want for it, yet don't do it as a focus or somewhere along the way.

Perhaps too many dangers in trusting...

Communicationseems good (not always live) but talking about something or one's self or others using a 1 touch recorder maybe too dangerous.
https://vocaroo.com/ seems an all-in-one solution but I admit that needs trust tpp or something to prevent abuse.

I'd be happy for people to send me something - but perhaps needs a good reason or question to start it off and ping pong audio recordings between us (I can't do Matrix for a few reasons)...

Perhaps ask me a question or topic to talk related to people problems or relationship issues and I'll see theoretically about something.

Audio could even be one way messages (me only doing voice) and for people to listen to me whenever they want and not even reply! Lol... But that's what I have with text so who knows if that's much better!

Let it sit on it - unless any points above ring home even as a "yeah good point but not sure why we;re not doing more of this kind of stuff in society...."

10 Maybe money could be a legit entry point for people's time and opinions if not more willingly volunteered !)

We pay people and employees to talk more about it all ?!! (seriously, more of a breakthrough idea than all the above!)

I could filter feelings / transcript key points and then delete audio. It's interaction and some values tested from it at least.

Could you offer some money for someone's 15min audio recording that we delete after taking text notes from?

@freeschool @invidious

Not sure who gave the impression we arent a mainstream server. We are, last i checked, one of the top 20 connected servers on the whole fediverse (in other words your posts are seen by more people when you post here than most).

You have to understand why, most of the blocking that occurs for QOTO is due to our policy of not blocking other servers. This means you generally have two types of servers, ones that block **tons** of servers(but dont tell their users) and are blocked by few server, or those that dont block any but are blocked by other servers as a result. As such when your on a server that isnt blocked very much you generally still are blocking most of the fediverse.

This is something we havent just measured but ive seen countless times. We often loose users because they hear about this and think like you do. Then when they move servers they loose half their user base (because the destination blocks those servers) and worse yet can not rebuild their follower base. The difference is stark when i watch how quickly our users tend to gain followers based on how slowly people gain followers on other servers.

Ive tested this myself by opening quite a few accounts on other servers and posting content there regularly (but under a different identity).. while here i getr some 10+ new followers a day many accounts on other servers are a year old with barely 50 followers.

@freemo

1 Hmm... Wasn't as immediately obvious or as straight-forward as I thought.

And like you said people many have got the wrong idea and left
- so this is a game-changer for me... and may have been for others if they knew more real testing and your few stats mentioned approximately.

Good it was tested somewhat by you which I trust... and perhaps people have to accept pot of gold doesn't exist anywhere unless we create a hive of activity.

2 About "mainstream" the word ...

Mainstream (or one type of meaning of it) could be considered what's listed on https://joinmastodon.org -

...inferring (correctly in some way and not) that what people see there are the main servers and perhaps user numbers signing up _comes from_ that "main" supported list... (I've seen a few list but not the official or recommended https://joinmastodon.org - which I think would be great to have QOTO on as before to represent (that's how I found QOTO and like it's features)...

though QOTO still exists without
- not sure if it's clear to others.

3 I wonder how else people would find QOTO unless heard / referred / recommended or saw QOTO users boosted from other users to switch...

4 I'm adding #QOTO as hashtag here as it's really good to hear this anyway-

but this info could go in one FAQ post about blocking (without the gargron politics) or even something regular to counter this behaviour of leaving like regular reminder / FYI of things covered before saying how #blocking by others is actually not that big of a deal and how you've tested it etc.

Educate people as your work and rest happens itself (again I see this as the job of any server and to KEEP DOING as any instance's program). Going to due on my sword on that

If you copied and pasted it to your own pages you could be one link around where you talk about blocking there as related... instead of just Nazi's or Gargron stuff - just deflect / show it actually doesn't matter even if slightly would be slightly more signups on official website.

Maybe hashtag like #QOTOBlocking (guess this is there now) could prep and collect it and we can always revise the hashtag or your website.

I'm was more torn about this before you said that. I can also have more accounts too and link them... but your info was crucial in my perspective realising "all ways a futile unless you make it yourself since mostly #p2p ironically doesn't exist manually here or organised" and spreading *this* to others if ever mentioned about QOTO or spreading better ways between people (dare I say a movement!).

Without these kinds of talking about it, investing in / by users, people would hardly know and therefore get wrong ideas and be left to themselves (quite normal) which is costly to you and the aims of QOTO (which I would change it to something more ACTIVE and *attacking* in education) -

Now I'm the one more pestering / attacking you and others but as a reflection of existing things not always existing or others not doing much work here (1 way posting about tech) and in my realm the cross-pollinated reasons, sharing dreams and factors would be stronger and said in passing with FOSS and STEM and reasons like you've mentioned come out sooner.

Again peer to peer conversation needed in order to _build_ (your existing efforts with me AND somehow seeding or attaching more people to each other as we go like a mesh)

It would be called "retainment" also if I was your communications / HR officer or other some such title

3 For testing followers I would say comparing your account here to a normal account elsewhere might have some main factors that are not proportional like:

a) declaring your creator of QOTO instead of using random / less anonym name helps get followers... more anonymity les follower
(it's chicken and egg sometimes for usefulness and future privacy but for people like you name is everything and worth trust even though any doctors could be bad people - but I accept names and titles help others in their head and accept others without these more state / old ways of thinking

FreeSchool for example as a name I know is + / - but my work should work more than anything / people need to start to trust that more than state with time even though I could fake a name...

b) more developed profile - more history and posts might help people follow...

but great to know you tested it.

4 I still would like to use your own position in "power" or status to take risks on other users and QOTO behalf if not assign me someone else (like to trust me while not trusting me completely) and mutually get on with QOTO stronger / stretch arms and roots out...

5 But for now I wait and see if you have any points from the previous 10 in the post before (of which most are skippable or first lines indicate the contents of that point)

Good stuff again. Hope others see it

6 People reading this might realise:

it's never going to be active here or there UNLESS they / WE make it / do something along the lines I mention 1-to-1
Then 1-to-many happen and doubling / Albert Bartlett ...

and we collect all these great users with whatever online name as long as the work is good!

7 Podcast via https://vocaroo.com notes whenever people feel still feelings like a good idea - maybe an edited roundup of anonymous people as podcast from one-way voice notes you or others send me and I mix up with my own sub-thoughts and see what people think (it gets people interested). But eh we'll see...

<--- freemo

@freeschool

Just one comment about (a) for my own purposes (and i encourage people to test this for themselves if they want) I have quite a few accounts that are intentionally anonymous specifically for this reason, as a data point to see how people respond to me vs my reputation. So ill leave all the other points to stand but I want to offer that that one at least is moot.

In the end, if your worried, go try a second account, see what the expiernce is and decide for yourself. The onlyt hing I advice against is people posting the same content to all their accounts, that will certainly get you blocked. But if you use different accounts for posting different topics that is usually well appreciated by the community and gives you a chance to try other servers.

I personally use one server because i dont have time for the others much. They were, as I said, experiments. I do maintain my ACM mastodon account though to show support.

@freemo @invidious Touching. Means a lot to me.
Thanks.

Will try write in short or by points

** take first sentence of each **

And even with changes in me it still might not be possible to get response due to quality of person out there (I think this is overlooked and not said unkindly, it's also fine and show it's for the few like us).

1 I usually add CW title *plus* do a short version with clear line to say read me or longer version after the line...
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so I feel I cover it mostly like this and most aren't ready to even say "I agree with the title and/or picture but the rest I didn't spend long on to be honest" so at least could say something positive... I get some favourites and boosts but nothing to overwhelm me so this is how I measure a lot but not only that - DM's are big one too.

Being on a blocker server or non-'mainstream' might not have helped me which is why I was also thinking of moving.

2 Adjusting my message is where you or others would come because even if I could do it alone it's about people thinking of others at the same time while we are working to help co-create eventually with others.
The word of mouth thing or thinking of introduce the perfect person to others are exactly the typical strong ways to answer many problems (which alone is hardly being built even if I got some replies), Need actual work or belief in it, together.

Someone to do the work translating for me from their own volition is almost the only way (even paid is losing heat like hiring mercenaries or hired-hitmen sometimes who never really had passion or meaning to begin with).

2 I have observed passionate or genius people are accordingly limited somehow (have differences and other balances) and *always* need a 'translator' / helper 'simplifier' / drugs / good sidekick or fan to help them balance or dial back the right things for other people. It's possibly the nature of mankind as part of the whole we can work on doing better than "Modern Capitalism" which we already covered.

The helper could see their own 'previous self' perhaps after stepping into the new way and help both world's problems to act like bridge / conduit holding both extremes or worlds of people..

Many historically I've seen and normally are too pure or misunderstood and need people 'in the middle' who believe and can hold others if not study them to say yes or no to being actually crazy or without logic / faulty / immoral etc.

Many need a pyramid underneath them I think (or everyone support everyone else a bit more - so if I had 5 fans to do 1 thing occasionally and they in turn had 1 or 6 others loosely doing things then this would be a new society overnight).

3 Yes. Passionate I am, and people seeing / calling it pushy is a classic sign that someone is probably passionate and not has the need timed to discern what kind of what type they are. Like a delegation goes to do things (without manipulation in mind(to understanding people and their own needs (or doing it selves) if right for them and even still keeping them in mind if not for them for someone else!)

It's definitely an #infinite source of #energy (or as long as I'm alive) which is very underrated or underused as a source for any project, which is why it seems so similar to how the same "trolls" might be seen as similar in their relentless energy to reply (and for bad / misguided things too) but in other people's case like mine it's for the measurably good and transparently good (if people actually spend time enough with others,, or actually let's not be too lenient and face it and blame people for their own quality in today's age...for being too quick to call things spam as they don't want to invest time, or people writing long as "trolls" etc and thereby creating the situation quite a lot - explain why things are somewhat of a mirror from people's inaction / destructive practises / scared of their own shadow-isms ).

3 The last sentence is almost impossible for me it seems - it tries to change me too instantly or believe I haven't tried my best ability already - so I'm at the maximum right now already and don't know how I could really change that much more or if it's just like changing a websites front end to expect any different after many years of experimenting.

So again anyway what I would need is 'translation' help or something slower and precise to say what works with people like "never use white borders in your picture" but really people aren't ease to get reaction from changed like that for basic text (if I was angry or racist or something I could tone it done but it's like no soul on the other side). So all other things seem more of a certain miss with "luke-warm" people (generously said I think) after trying what I can and run out of ideas.

Again "this" (and the post) is surely what it comes back to - even if I could do it alone for a response - it's incrementing #cocreation, #trust.

All reflects the slower help we all probably need as building of real contacts and those that contribute rather than trying to attempt to appease or learn what maybe 0.01% nuance 'might' work for 1 person to repond and still not getting a deeper that way as reply because they don't trust me or whatever want #friends / finding work to do anytime in our spare time.

Existing format and variation examples are with a CW title, pictures / no pictures, multiple versions / attempts, audio clips, music remixes video clips, (see #Greta hashtag), quoting best sentences of others, sending DM's, replying on others posts, various things that are not seemingly enough for many conscious out there!! (It's just me and you out here serious!)

I also haven't seen anyone else like me who does respond to short hi. Few good exist but stay 1-way / are in their academic lanes and containers - sure complaining a lot but not trying with others to work with others.

This was why I was considering moving from QOTO as it would actually improve my chances a bit as it's already low chance with the servers blocking QOTO to reach people even the 1% or 0,0001% and again still just you at the constant so seem destined.

5 You said "If you adjusted your message to be".... how you otherwise interact with people... and that basically changes everything-ish... so again someone to re-write it or act as cyber-secretary would be good test but otherwise it's me and you "for the way" so far -

you could try to name others but they often can sting 2 posts together and fade too easily. Even the best of them, who are able to talk. just talk about hate which is spun by leaders more and not friendship and co-creation for the way.

@freeschool @invidious

I generally do invest in people directly, just as I do in aggregate. The problem is when you help people one on one your reach has a large impact burt over very few people.

I have many times in my life taken homeless people into my home and invested in them to get a start in life. In some cases they have stayed with me for a year or more, and in some cases I have even paid for their university fees.

About 50% of the time it works out and the money and time is well spent. But I can at most do this for about one person every few years. It doesnt scale well. Sadly if I just give people money 99% of them never achieve anything with it, it only ever works with strong guidance and oversight, and even then at only a 50% rate. So overall while I do find this important due to the small number of people I can reach it isnt typically the bulk of the time and effort I put into helping people anymore. Especially because now investing that time into making large amounts of money I can reach and help far more people

@freemo @invidious
I know you do well - and what I'm suggesting is this "better social" showing how to do logic better (which some you do already in post) but with a few spread that, allow me / them to train others to do better in their own lives and give their own feedback and suggestion as a more dedicated thing.

If humanity has to copy to the next generation / pass things on then show to better in that sense... and do it better this way moer accessible daily / weekly (while people live in the current status quo and do this in between)

But I don't mean mostly in that monetary way to help as you mention (again I assume you did more, but things needs less focus on money and more things like logic and finding people similar to work with as social itself more often). It like we have a platform but not many can actual do social / socialise or know how and want a place often where it's said to be the place rather than me trying to email the whole Fediverse and finding it's all lacking and quite empty after a few good comments.

Nor do I think those #monetary ways and people want to #help people #riseup to #equalise things (hence #power / #money / #regulations itself in the first (which can have 1/10th sense to 'protect' people but 9/10th abuse of it).

I guess #police is the epitome of all this protection (and now all combined as #ACAB - ALL COMPUTERS ARE BASTARDS) with #AI or whatever spices of your choice to "boost" all the rest of what's mentions for even more death and damage to humans - just that bit faster.

Honestly all this is turning out to be giving people a bucket with a hole in it just to get them to run and do things faster for them while never really solving things for the people really.

Quite clever actually as it keeps 'motivation' in people to keep running for water like a house is on fire (the planet) and seemingly provides food while the animal doesn't realise that the planet being set alight and "invisible hand(s)" are taking from it's buckets and financial accounts and public pots all the meanwhile. Seemingly no dead bodies just a merry-go-round of crisis.

Importantly it's not directly stealing from your account (reloaning it) or physically challenging you the animal so that one day you have enough to duke it out. You don't see it so might not think there are people wasting your money (from your #account or as #tax)

Just maintaining a passive steal, siphoning, charging, regular #rugpulls, changing of #goalposts, "regulating" competition, changing things in background like a bad man-made cruel person that only makes sense unless you like that kind of stuff and one of them, changing values and words for profit and if you count #paying more each #generation #iteration as a success for yourself or #humanity.

Arbitrary uncaring power-play by those that gamble that others can't get their shit together to find some equally consistent defence (more than working more and paying more!!).

This is part of you quest / all our #responsibility.

Probably money is one of the things to sort out in life as it's constantly #undermining us and we almost forgot it's a #manmade thing.

All these rugpull type things, takeovers, changing equations, double-speak / false representation by bad managers / gamblers / leaders etc... enough let's #DIY Do It Ourselves (everyone else but them types).

Money is evidently to keep people broken in many ways while seemingly just keeping them alive in the body / physical sense mostly (not mind).

Sorry Freemo I'd like a yes or no on the above rant to save it coming up again if you really don't see it the same...

Money is made just for paying them now more than ever and only for more profit as the biggest damage and priority to suck dry EVERYTHING without mercy (including us sub-hired to do it or just from wanting to eat).

The value on people's bodies is also closer to breaking point everywhere too as people themselves are becoming unwanted extra things and meaningless - so that's also how we onboard people somewhat, at least for their mind and if they are specialist snipers to use it for better things, but keep another active social eco-system going collecting mass.

All the other areas of life really suffer, instead of really giving / growing / paying it forward to people without adding big costs, having it paid already, taxing for profit, adding more conditions and hoops, and buying extra more yachts for each banker wanker$ pictured spending it all away.

So yes your examples are quite valid / great - while being totally misguided for anything other than more of the same bad 'help' / bad circle if mostly in monetary field - It might be nobody ever framed it that way or your logic system is still in the belief of numbers and not seeing behind the curtain / under the hood.

If you can't see that state is giving and keeping people on bad drugs to just for itself and to hide symptoms instead of looking and facing societal causes and try not to profit from it... then it's it's hard for me to say much more due to how clever you are but it's EASY to fall into the man-made money container constantly evolved (devolving perhaps as new kind of #enshitification / evolution of dishonesty)

We see and hear from people even if they have a job and everything. Still complains (even if people are naturally unsatifyable), just lack of care everywhere and depression / disconnection / exhausted condition .

People are cornered and reduced to cutting themselves with each new #news from #leaders like #Trump (but could be whoever actually - the point is not to follow that and make more strong trust between us).

People are hanging out at hashtag #Trump as we speak dumping even their spare time instead of using that same virtue-signal time to actually make friends from everyone and find do with anyone willing.
I think is our opportunity and it needs a bigger person as front shop / wedge / wave starter etc.

Instead of focusing and acting as repeaters for the leaders (even on #Mastodon) to help others make it happen for themselves (doesn't need you always)... to make better attention and work for ourselves slowly but surely... but adjusted along the way or collected from our moans to do better.

Existing life we have to grow out of in mind and body - Agree?

I mean #growth of our #mind too / creating our own #culture as #QOTO to see how it goes even as an #experiment... (I did ask that as a question as "why not" towards the end of last message but "time" is only the answer for those that don't want to accommodate it as there is enough time and space if added / incremented)

Maybe you're in a classical kind of "give money" dude and want to "guide them to get out of problems" without realising now it's still low chance anyway since everything is being reduced, cut off, devalued, limited, bought out, automated (just whatever too many things) etc and their same mentality helps stop people rise up too at the same time as they need 'willing' workers to take their crappy jobs.

Do you agree that state doesn't really want to help and have healthy people ? Just wants drones, like male bees for humans working to do ITS work using fairly primitive mentality

So money is the lesser answer in all this thinking or getting homeless a job (apart from immediate relief but quickly dips again).

The competition and population is just too much like trying to swim against the tide and not much at the other side once you get there anyway. Money is not a great measurement of success when uncaring cruel parents (called state) starve people in various ways - and ask people to fight for them by fighting / subjecting each other / not finding another way like asking and accommodating us.

We're up against a colder darker force of rolling mentality over the years freemo. It's also followed by the good but hopeless / aimless folk that follow of the (#cheating) system for food (also getting increasingly crap) and they also think it's giving to them overall... still not seeing housing prices skyrocket or other inequalities drastically knowing down ANY "wealth" (should just call it #numbers actually as some of it is only purely numbers and not real earthly things of representation).

If you don't think systems is #cheating us out of life itself on many levels and fronts please stop me front trying RIGHT NOW !

Seriously if people can't agree that - then I'm done needing to say more...

Just save me the effort and type "I don't think the $tate is cheating us in a major way
and I'll respect you said it.

So money is not the only way or even the main way out of this initial body survival in the mind - it's a mind / friendship / world thing while integrating everything else from existing and amalgamating it.

Does there seem any doubt in that?

I feel like you don't get that or can't accept it's not about money as the main aim - like a hole in the bucket given to save someone - they can't really save themselves - you'd never have imagined that a bank would do that but it's as real as much as banks want to 'give' you money as a loan or as real as internet and cloud turning out to be for data siphoning and collection more than anything.

It's all disabling our ability to rise out of it and equalize wealth, power etc and now shutting things down quicker than ever.

You have to realise ALL money now embedded more tricks than ever / contaminated #authority / cheapens itself as it's re-loaned behind our back daily and acts like it's own #trojanhorse / #rugpull to self as an advanced mouse trap and collection of techniques developed over time...
Tech Math Social Science Tax - All of it. It's why all states copy and subject their civilizations under it - it's the ultimate all-in-one economic tool (economics means war on others using your captured people. Those kinds of people only that see it that way and see people only as extractional numbers to squeeze out of more each year and cheat out of their pension which is a cruel joke at old age to gamble for that).

"Breaking their legs to then sell them crutches" ... (it's not #cooperation with state, we're running scared)

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I do 100% hear and know you do help... but it's not just #financial #measurement at the end (at all)...
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Money will be part of it since we are born into it but not IT as the answer itself since that was deliberate-#sabotage-by-design
- it's about hearing and filtering people and our problems towards personal / #social #change with less need for those bad things and sharing more often (or whatever more than walking into a #bank / #casino which takes back more and expecting good things to happen)...

When we *all* do more *people investment* more often as social and micro-social investment then we improve communication and everything else and ourselves with the right others (through another version of ourself almost)
This is the real work eventually.

Like what you do with smaller adjustments of people's comments but towards something at the end and providing more things for people to do make it working together / a #visionary putting 2 or more people's work together or introducing ways asking them to #cooperate or get things done of a people type to help them mentally (which in turn get other things done).

Purification (without sounding airy fairy) but imagine how filtering and preparing material (or people) is better somehow (even if not sure what it's for and can't label it because it can have lots of ways of labeling it / multiple projects)

A bit like how turbos work putting air back into to itself to re-use it and propel itself faster ... that's what we need for our personal lives and works... to get best out of them...

Don't measure as money and look as the other stuff being cut out needs processing again and evolving out of it via mind and this personal and societal change.

It's not a overnight "conversion" but healing happens CONSISTENTLY over time and like a forum or crowd very useful
(with more active people going around helping each table). Visually this table example is a lot better to see meeting people is good / asking for what you need / offering what you'd like to give...

People don't know how to socialise.

I'm accepting money exists and want to promote putting back what has been the cutting out of emotions and expression across the board and what we can put back in meaning in our daily lives (and therefore future, today) by increasingly heading back that way with better containers (like friendship, advice, experience, love, respect, planet, land etc)...

But needs incrementing and a kind of figurehead a bit on the ship ... similar to what you do in your replies but somehow more a dedicated place and daily thing... with more around doing that... noticeboard, wishlist style...

I really like you taking on homeless, paying for things etc... but that's not what I'm talking about.

It's the talking it out between us on Fediverse or few clever and helping in the asking / giving / needs / #wishlist to build each other up in fragments or confidence we don't have.

Like what's the point of me doing anything when there's literally nobody good to do it for?

So people are narrow like that in business containers so then what do we expect, caring techies ? They are over-focused in 1 field.
So all of us can cross-pollinate and branch fields a bit more while helping in our own field like in a #dojo we know but looser #daily with everyone and pick up on their #ideas / #struggles for some things to #increment...

You can't do anything much with money and it's more about people. Hard for people to get that perhaps because that's exactly what systems cut out - but once you realise it I think listening to all in a deliberate way helps decentralize even that which people feel stuck in their own world (and even dismiss their own fears or whatever needs coming out from lack of other outlet and then really let things fly when realising exactly what they need to do or haven't been doing). That's really golden part more than money.

Picture is not the best but has some truth to it and anyway when managed by uncaring people, even straight numbers and equations would be bad.
#FreeSchool

@freemo @invidious@social.tchncs.de Greatest #money and #truth post on #Fediverse right now is here (if you click this post),

Explaining money 'system' as a scam basically and the underlying cause for everything - wouldn't you know ? (The actual unfairness itself is money - hmmm).

Might not be the most technical sounding... but say it's wrong if really you believe it!

Read and Reply
Bookmark and forget !

Consider replying if you don't get parts or can't believe it

The rest is history... if we can understand how things don't work for us and use the wrong people...

Consider how money is actually given like a big hole in your bucket for you to carry like water pay like leaking bucket everywhere while you don't see it and being #mispent by banks.

Otherwise why give it to people?
Why could banks in 70's give it interest free to other countries and still accumulate power?

(ANSWER: Because they get MUCH MORE back and have a 'system' in various way #debt or #extraction / costs through usage).

To such an extent now it's giving banks excessive power more than ever to contribute to other problems in the world in multiple ways *everywhere*.

Not just their virtual re-loaning ability and risk-taking of savings (loaning more than they have often behind your back) but doing deals in a #gambling / #betting #system essentially !

Gambling life away!

Really is core to almost all problems and not only in the wrongful #future loaning but directly #funding #wars

All bank$ I think have some part in that 'game'.

#Banks funding #war and profitable #crisis ? Surely they not

Could be why some old folks might have kept money under their mattress in the past because it was that better than bad banks having it and spinning the same loan shark type games fuelling uncaring people causing / funding both sides of #war

Suddenly it's not your money all along but a private shop profiting from reusing money itself you store with them and constantly diluting it by loaning it to others and for bad things / gambling mostly.

Don't use banks / start to minimise and invest #value in #people as the better spiral a bit more mentally / #spiritually upwards ... not down by giving power to banks just extracting from people with long-term / lifeline debt...

@freemo @invidious Greatest #money and #truth post on #Fediverse right now is here (if you click this post),

Explaining money 'system' as a scam basically and the underlying cause for everything - wouldn't you know ? (The actual unfairness itself is money - hmmm).

Might not be the most technical sounding... but say it's wrong if really you believe it!

Read and Reply
Bookmark and forget !

Consider replying if you don't get parts or can't believe it

The rest is history... if we can understand how things don't work for us and use the wrong people...

Consider how money is actually given like a big hole in your bucket for you to carry like water pay like leaking bucket everywhere while you don't see it and being #mispent by banks.

Otherwise why give it to people?
Why could banks in 70's give it interest free to other countries and still accumulate power?

(ANSWER: Because they get MUCH MORE back and have a 'system' in various way #debt or #extraction / costs through usage).

To such an extent now it's giving banks excessive power more than ever to contribute to other problems in the world in multiple ways *everywhere*.

Not just their virtual re-loaning ability and risk-taking of savings (loaning more than they have often behind your back) but doing deals in a #gambling / #betting #system essentially !

Gambling life away!

Really is core to almost all problems and not only in the wrongful #future loaning but directly #funding #wars

All bank$ I think have some part in that 'game'.

#Banks funding #war and profitable #crisis ? Surely they not

Could be why some old folks might have kept money under their mattress in the past because it was that better than bad banks having it and spinning the same loan shark type games fuelling uncaring people causing / funding both sides of #war

Suddenly it's not your money all along but a private shop profiting from reusing money itself you store with them and constantly diluting it by loaning it to others and for bad things / gambling mostly.

Don't use banks / start to minimise and invest #value in #people as the better spiral a bit more mentally / #spiritually upwards ... not down by giving power to banks just extracting from people with long-term / lifeline debt...