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@AR-15 I'm said many times that for the purpose of this discussion you may assume that I think there is no pandemic. This is part of me trying to explain to you the original point. But you are not willing to try to understand the original point. All you want is for me to say what you want me to say and argue with you about what you want me to argue with you about. And i couldn't care less about that particular thing.

@Eris @bonifartius

@namark @Eris @bonifartius But you haven't tried to explain anything! You've just tried to confuse me and only succeeded in confusing yourself. Sad!

And yes, I want you to argue with me about what you came here to argue about. I don't want you to argue about whether or not you are arguing or whether your arguments are arguments.
@namark @Eris @bonifartius If by "I couldn't care less about that particular thing" you mean "I don't care about whether there is a pandemic or not" then what is your purpose here?

@AR-15 in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda, but then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read, and are hell bent on arguing with an imaginary opponent that you want me to play the role of. Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
@Eris @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius

>in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda,
My agenda is to point out how disingenuous and psychotic that "roast" is.
>ut then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read,
That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.
>Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.

@Eris

>That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.

I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.

>Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.

I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius

>I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.
No you just keep saying "I pointed it out" without ever doing so.
>I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.
I will tell you when you have answered it.

@Eris
>I will tell you when you have answered it
exactly my point

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
>exactly my point
Your point is that I want you to clarify yourself to me?
Good, that is also my point.

@Eris no that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say, your friend AR-15 has even clarified what exactly you want me to say, and that nothing else will satisfy you

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius

>that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say,
...Yes? That's how being satisfied works?

@Eris So you want me to just role play someone I'm not and not to say what I think, glad we established that. I will not though.

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius

>So you want me to just role play someone I'm not and not to say what I think
No, the exact opposite of that.
What we want, what will satisfy us, is if you say what you think.
We are dying to know.

@Eris I told it multiple times, that for the purposes of this conversation I accepted your premise, and otherwise I couldn't care less, but you will never be satisfied, unless I say exactly what you want to hear, almost word per word.
@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @Eris @bonifartius You didn't accept his premise though and if you did, that would make no sense! If you accept that there is no pandemic then you should apologize to OP for "roasting" him for making this exact assertion.

@AR-15 no my point stands, even if pandemic does not exist, read it again with the edit I suggested, if there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.

@Eris @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius

>even if pandemic does not exist, read it again with the edit I suggested, if there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
If the pandemic does not exist (it doesn't) then your post is the post of a condescending cunt who is engaging in a struggle session. If the pandemic does not exist (it doesn't) you are evil. You are evil.
If there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.

@Eris you did not address anything particular from the my reply, but sure keep asserting your truth and pray for it to magically manifests itself

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
> you did not address anything particular from the my reply,
Yes because my problem is with the premise of your question, that there is a pandemic.

@Eris there is no such premise in my question. there is such premise in the OP, that is not my premise, and m argument does not rest on it

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @Eris @bonifartius I'm really confused. Do you just personally dislike the OP then? In my understanding it seemed like they said "vaccinated people are crazy and bloodthirsty against unvaccinated" and you responded "unvaccinated people are malicious and deserve it." Yet now you're saying there is no pandemic. If there is no pandemic then why would vaccination status matter? If you can't die from COVID then why be vaccinated against it? Your argument as I perceive it makes no sense unless you are just a pedantic fucktard or a pharma CEO.

Please clarify your argument. Is my perception of it wrong, yes or no? If I'm wrong, then what is your argument?

@AR-15 ever tried looking past dichotomy? He said he barely overheard some people saying "dunno what" about unvaxinated, and that he is freaking terrified of that. I told him to not be a pussy and next time go talk to them and figure out what they were about, instead of running home and posting paranoid crap over that particular incident. I don't care about overarching narrative of pro or anti pandemic BS you have going on here, and can't look past.

@Eris @bonifartius

@namark @Eris @bonifartius holy shit LOL, do you even understand how fucking insane it is to instruct someone to go up to people and ask them what they mean when you just spent 5 hours giving non answers to that same question? You're way worse than I thought. Legitimately evil.
@namark @Eris @bonifartius holy fucking shit "just go ask them if they were talking about genociding you! Don't just assume they were! You have to ask them and take their answer at face value!"

>hey man are you talking about the pandemic?

"We're not arguing! :) you're just dumb!"

>what the fuck? Are you talking about the pandemic?

>>>>5 hours later

"No lol! I'm talking about genocide."

@AR-15 It's not my fault that you don't know how to talk to people. No judgement for you disability, only for your cowardice.

@Eris @bonifartius

@namark @Eris @bonifartius Okay then, go ask official Chinese propaganda channels whether the Tiananmen Square Massacre happened. You know how to Talk To People, so I'm sure you can expect a totally honest answer. Ask a girlfriend who is cheating on you whether she is actually cheating on you. Your great Talking To People skills will surely get her to answer truthfully!

@AR-15 Again can't read what I write. Where did you write go ask them directly what you are freaking paranoid about. I simple said go talk to them, pretend to be e terrible fascist vaxer if that's what it takes, but I understand if that too much for your sensitivities, not bonafartius though, I will talk to him if he replies

@Eris @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
>pretend to be e terrible fascist vaxer if that's what it takes, but I understand if that too much for your sensitivities, not bonafartius though, I will talk to him if he replies
Why go through an elaborate plot to learn something obvious?

@Eris it's not an elaborate plot it's called a smalltalk. You can't do it I understand, you are too afraid, not to worry.

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
Being deceptive in order to gain information is an elaborate plot. "Small talk" is a psychopathic learned behavior.
@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
I am literally a deacon and I am literally trying to convert you.
Repeating that back to me and adding a sarcastic tone is not insightful.

@Eris you may assign any tone you want to my writing, I don't mind

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
I try to assign the one you intend. I do not think I have made any errors.
@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius

Are you going to seriously claim that you were *unironically* saying "Yes pastor, I convert?"
I don't know why you tell these extremely goofy lies.

@Eris You seemed to have a problem with the tone and not intent, so I wanted to help you. If it is intent that you are after than I'm afraid that there is nothing for you but faith in this matter.

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @Eris @bonifartius I thought you were the one who knew how to talk to people? Surely you understand the relationship between tone and intent. They're not independent.
@namark @Eris @bonifartius You explicitly did when you said Eris and I don't know how to talk to people and we are mentally disabled as a result.
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@AR-15 ah I see, you didn't notice I'm snarky, understandable

@Eris @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
That seems pretty psychopathic to me. You enjoy intentionally irritating others for no reason but your own pleasure?

@Eris It's a writing style, I don't care if anyone reads it, other than for them to meet me with the their own style, and have a little bit of an argument in between.

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @Eris @bonifartius . . . What?

>I like argumentation without points or meaning, just style, no substance

You need a shotgun lobotomy.

@AR-15 the snark is the style, this subthread was about the reason for snark. The arguments are meaningful and are in between.

@Eris @bonifartius

@AR-15 @namark @Eris @bonifartius

I like argumentation without points or meaning, just style, no substance

“ me enjoy favorite pastime of my people, pilpul “

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius

1. Why would you write something if you don't care if anyone reads it? What is even the point?
2. I am reading what you write, there is no if about it. Act accordingly. Write for your audience of one. This is how conversations work. There are two people.

@Eris I said what precicely I care about when writing, learn to read, lean english yada yayda

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
>I said what precicely I care about when writing, learn to read, lean english yada yayda
Only concerned with what you care about, not what we care about.

@Eris yes I care about what I care about, and that's what I tell when you ask me what I care about

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius Seems pretty psychopathic. Are you aware that other people are also people, like you are?

@Eris in fact you are so much like me you instantly fell in love

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
>in fact you are so much like me you instantly fell in love
I don't know what this post is meant to communicate other than "I want to type something snarky to show I do not respect you or this conversation"
I can see no leftover meaning when I remove the snark.
@Eris @bonifartius @namark True of virtually everything he has ever said to either of us.

@Eris the leftover meaning is that we wouldn't be talking so long if there was not something in common.

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
>we wouldn't be talking so long if there was not something in common.
That's a dumb thing to think, and I would rather you expressed it plainly so I could tell you you are dumb plainly.

@Eris I don't care how you want me to write, I write how I write here.

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius

Writing is communication. You are implicitly doing it for someone else, not for yourself.
@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius I do not find you constantly implying passive aggressively that i am dumb to be amusing. That does not amuse me. It is not a style that is beneficial. It is objectively negative.

@Eris You don't have to read what I write, you are not the only one here, I will not die of loneliness my love, don't worry

@AR-15 @bonifartius

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@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius Shouldn't you care about what others care about then when you interact with them?

@Eris not when you ask me what I care about... you asked me what I care about I answered, otherwise I'm not particularly willing to share my whole philosophy with you... you followed me, so just wait and see
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@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
>not when you ask me what I care about...
You're establishing a new context which we weren't operating in order to tactically draw a weird distinction to avoid just acknowledging me as right, out of a weird obsessive desire to be disagreeable.

@Eris right about what? that I'm evil? i never disputed that... @AR-15 @bonifartius

@Eris can't wrap your head around it can you mu righteous friend? Again you may wait and see. I talk here once in a while.
@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
>can't wrap your head around it can you mu righteous friend?
Did you just use the word righteous as an insult?
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@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
And no, right about the fact that you do not care about what others care about.
@namark @Eris @bonifartius The object of language is to learn and teach others about truth, reality, and meaning. Divorcing it from this is literally masturbation, yet you were the one accusing Eris and me of circlejerking.
@namark @AR-15 @bonifartius
>and have a little bit of an argument in between.
When do we start that part? So part it's literally just snark and nothing else.

@Eris I can't help that you are incapable of engaging, and only assert and repeat.

@AR-15 @bonifartius

@namark @Eris @bonifartius So nothing you say matters because you don't mean it when you say it to me, or you can just pretend you didn't mean it later.

I'm not used to being around evil people like you. I try to avoid associating with people who don't care about the truth. Because I care about Truth.

@AR-15 then you might be interested in stories Hilbert and Godel would tell you. I can retell though, too much work.

@Eris @bonifartius

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