You condescendingly used a strawman version of my premise to argue against me.
That is not accepting the premise, it is rejecting it with extra steps.
Here's a hint: If you do not agree with a premise, you do not accept it.
Do you agree or disagree? Choose one, they are mutually exclusive.
@Eris learn english? @AR-15 @bonifartius
@AR-15 I don't care to be nice yo you, I'm sorry again if I heart your feelings, you can block me or mute me or whatever
Argue your point. Stop arguing about whether or not you're arguing. This is just silly.
@AR-15 If you want to see my argument it's in my reply to OP, and in my first reply to Eris. Past that it's Eris pretending that I'm arguing something I'm not arguing.
What is it that you are arguing then? Because you seem to think we're retarded and you clearly don't like us. I'm begging you, please say "my point is: ___." Stop doing this meta abstraction bullshit. It just makes you sound like you're hoping you'll make yourself sound smart (you're not) and confuse us into saying you were right, and it sounds like you're doubling down because you really don't want to have an actual argument, you just want to jelq your midwit IQ.
@AR-15 Here is a direct quotr from my reply to OP
> People lost close friends and family to this pandemic and
the thorn in all of your sides, that will torment you till the end of days... not let me blow your minds... simply remove it (the exactly text I pasted here) from my reply... the point still stands... if you can't see it all I can tell you is "learn to read", I'm sorry again for hurting your feelings
"Here is a vague allusion to what my point is and a condescending comment about how you are insufficiently smart to read my mind, rather than just a clear unambiguous statement of my position"
Stop doing this.
@Eris I wrote it down... do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
>do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
I want you to type a single sentence that clearly tells me what the fuck you are trying to say.
@Eris I did it in my first reply, and now also clarified that the thing you are so hung up on, is so inconsequential to it that you can literally remove it, can you do a basic edit, and re read it? Or will you keep playing dumb forever?
@AR-15 @bonifartius
You never did
>you have to edit my words to find out what I meant because I'm not going to tell you!
Ok
@AR-15 I asked yo edit the part that you are hung up on to demonstrate how inconsequential it is, to the main point. I wrote what I mean, if you are too lazy to scroll up I'll link.
@Eris @bonifartius
@AR-15 If there is absolutely nothing you can latch on to to ask a question or present an argument, I can't help you. If you ask me to write the same thing again I'll write it the same way.
@AR-15 Which part didn't make sense to you? There was a non trivial amount. @Eris @bonifartius
@AR-15 I'm said many times that for the purpose of this discussion you may assume that I think there is no pandemic. This is part of me trying to explain to you the original point. But you are not willing to try to understand the original point. All you want is for me to say what you want me to say and argue with you about what you want me to argue with you about. And i couldn't care less about that particular thing.
And yes, I want you to argue with me about what you came here to argue about. I don't want you to argue about whether or not you are arguing or whether your arguments are arguments.
@AR-15 in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda, but then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read, and are hell bent on arguing with an imaginary opponent that you want me to play the role of. Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
@Eris @bonifartius
>in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda,
My agenda is to point out how disingenuous and psychotic that "roast" is.
>ut then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read,
That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.
>Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.
>That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.
I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.
>Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.
I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.
>I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.
No you just keep saying "I pointed it out" without ever doing so.
>I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.
I will tell you when you have answered it.
@Eris
>I will tell you when you have answered it
exactly my point
>exactly my point
Your point is that I want you to clarify yourself to me?
Good, that is also my point.
@Eris no that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say, your friend AR-15 has even clarified what exactly you want me to say, and that nothing else will satisfy you
>that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say,
...Yes? That's how being satisfied works?
@Eris So you want me to just role play someone I'm not and not to say what I think, glad we established that. I will not though.
>So you want me to just role play someone I'm not and not to say what I think
No, the exact opposite of that.
What we want, what will satisfy us, is if you say what you think.
We are dying to know.
@Eris I told it multiple times, that for the purposes of this conversation I accepted your premise, and otherwise I couldn't care less, but you will never be satisfied, unless I say exactly what you want to hear, almost word per word.
@AR-15 @bonifartius
@AR-15 no my point stands, even if pandemic does not exist, read it again with the edit I suggested, if there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
>even if pandemic does not exist, read it again with the edit I suggested, if there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
If the pandemic does not exist (it doesn't) then your post is the post of a condescending cunt who is engaging in a struggle session. If the pandemic does not exist (it doesn't) you are evil. You are evil.
If there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
@Eris there is no such premise in my question. there is such premise in the OP, that is not my premise, and m argument does not rest on it
>there is no such premise in my question
Yes, there is.
> there is such premise in the OP,
No, there isn't.
@Eris then once again you simply can't read
>then once again you simply can't read
I cannot read what you wrote and tell what you meant by it, that is correct. Do you remember when you said this 5 minutes ago and I said the same thing?
> and m argument does not rest on it
I still don't know what that alleged argument is.
@Eris cause you refuse to read it, or the OP
@Eris it would be very easy if you told me which part you did not understand. Again if it's all of it then I can't help you any further. If you think the OP claims that pandemic is not real, you are also completely missing that point, and not even trying to read it properly.
>Again if it's all of it then I can't help you any further.
Again, yes you can.
>and not even trying to read it properly.
I don't know how to read it properly, so I can't try. It's your job to show me.
This is how "conversations" work.
@Eris It's not my job to teach you to read another persons post when you are clearly not even trying and claiming absurdities based on your own delusions, I'm not your english tutor, I'm just enjoying the shitshow.
>when you are clearly not even trying and claiming absurdities based on your own delusions,
I am clearly trying very hard. I have asked for your help dozens of times. How can I try harder? What more can I do?
What have you done to try to be understood?
@Eris asking is not trying. Trying is when you read it and think about what it meant. Do it several times if you wish. Think for some time. Ask about what specifically does not make sense to you.
> asking is not trying
Actually, in a conversation, the unit of effort is questions. To the degree that you ask questions and listen to their answers, you are conversing.
I calculated your ratio of doing this above. You got a very bad score.
@Eris I'm talking about trying to read not trying to confess your love for me.
>I'm talking about trying to read not trying to confess your love for me.
See, this is snark. It contributes negatively to the conversation. It makes it less likely for me to understand you, and you to understand me. It makes the earth worse. It is evil. Stop it.
@Eris I will not, cope
I don't want to be understood.
Yes, boomer trolling. Noticeably a vague and intrinsically ignorant facsimile of the real thing as all boomer things are.
Please clarify your argument. Is my perception of it wrong, yes or no? If I'm wrong, then what is your argument?
@AR-15 ever tried looking past dichotomy? He said he barely overheard some people saying "dunno what" about unvaxinated, and that he is freaking terrified of that. I told him to not be a pussy and next time go talk to them and figure out what they were about, instead of running home and posting paranoid crap over that particular incident. I don't care about overarching narrative of pro or anti pandemic BS you have going on here, and can't look past.
>He said he barely overheard some people saying "dunno what" about unvaxinated, and that he is freaking terrified of that. I told him to not be a pussy and next time go talk to them and figure out what they were about, instead of running home and posting paranoid crap over that particular incident.
Holy shit you actually did it. It only took you 5 hours.
You told a person not to be a pussy when they heard people openly describing their genocide in public.
Yeah, you are evil.
@Eris he wrote don't know what, you deduced genocide from single phrase that someone else didn't quite hear properly. Impeccable logic. Still does not refute my point, and still reading it is beyond you.
>you deduced genocide from single phrase
Yes, I did, and my deduction is correct and reasonable.
@Eris sure, unmatched skill of deduction you have there... and then you go ahead and demand me to elaborate my long from writing over and over again, still unable to deduce the ultimate mystery that is my though... will you ever be able to rest, after facing such a perplexing puzzle... coming up next on eris.tv
>unmatched skill of deduction you have there...
No actually it's really easy to tell from context clues what's going on there. It would be weird to fail to deduce this.
>and then you go ahead and demand me to elaborate my long from writing over and over again
Actually I just demanded that you do it once, but had to demand it over and over again.
>still unable to deduce the ultimate mystery that is my though...
I deduced your true thoughts from the beginning, I'm just trying to get you to take off your mask.
@AR-15 oh yes, I am your worst nightmare, look away!
@Eris ow, ok... fight! punch the screen!
@Eris punch the screen seriously?
I am calling you evil seriously.
The fact that your replies to this are ironic snark merely enforce this view.
@AR-15 talk to people doesn't mean ask them if they are planning genocide anywhere except in your fantasy land.
>talk to people doesn't mean ask them if they are planning genocide anywhere except in your fantasy land.
It means it in the conversation we are talking about in the OP.
@Eris yes, again, please tell me more about what I mean
@AR-15 @bonifartius
>hey man are you talking about the pandemic?
"We're not arguing! :) you're just dumb!"
>what the fuck? Are you talking about the pandemic?
>>>>5 hours later
"No lol! I'm talking about genocide."
@AR-15 It's not my fault that you don't know how to talk to people. No judgement for you disability, only for your cowardice.
>It's not my fault that you don't know how to talk to people.
We do. You don't.
@AR-15 Again can't read what I write. Where did you write go ask them directly what you are freaking paranoid about. I simple said go talk to them, pretend to be e terrible fascist vaxer if that's what it takes, but I understand if that too much for your sensitivities, not bonafartius though, I will talk to him if he replies
>Where did you write go ask them directly what you are freaking paranoid about.
>. I simple said go talk to them,
I didn't say [x] i just said [basically x]
@Eris I udnerstand you have a problem with saying anything either then "are you for us or agains us", but OP is does not suffer from that, that's why I did not suggest you to go to talk to anyone, I suggested the OP. You I suggest to learn to read.
>but OP is does not suffer from that,
How do you suffer from a positive, fruitful attitude?
> you did not address anything particular from the my reply,
Yes because my problem is with the premise of your question, that there is a pandemic.