What is it that you are arguing then? Because you seem to think we're retarded and you clearly don't like us. I'm begging you, please say "my point is: ___." Stop doing this meta abstraction bullshit. It just makes you sound like you're hoping you'll make yourself sound smart (you're not) and confuse us into saying you were right, and it sounds like you're doubling down because you really don't want to have an actual argument, you just want to jelq your midwit IQ.
@AR-15 Here is a direct quotr from my reply to OP
> People lost close friends and family to this pandemic and
the thorn in all of your sides, that will torment you till the end of days... not let me blow your minds... simply remove it (the exactly text I pasted here) from my reply... the point still stands... if you can't see it all I can tell you is "learn to read", I'm sorry again for hurting your feelings
"Here is a vague allusion to what my point is and a condescending comment about how you are insufficiently smart to read my mind, rather than just a clear unambiguous statement of my position"
Stop doing this.
@Eris I wrote it down... do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
>do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
I want you to type a single sentence that clearly tells me what the fuck you are trying to say.
@Eris I did it in my first reply, and now also clarified that the thing you are so hung up on, is so inconsequential to it that you can literally remove it, can you do a basic edit, and re read it? Or will you keep playing dumb forever?
@AR-15 @bonifartius
You never did
>you have to edit my words to find out what I meant because I'm not going to tell you!
Ok
@AR-15 I asked yo edit the part that you are hung up on to demonstrate how inconsequential it is, to the main point. I wrote what I mean, if you are too lazy to scroll up I'll link.
@Eris @bonifartius
@AR-15 If there is absolutely nothing you can latch on to to ask a question or present an argument, I can't help you. If you ask me to write the same thing again I'll write it the same way.
@AR-15 Which part didn't make sense to you? There was a non trivial amount. @Eris @bonifartius
@AR-15 I'm said many times that for the purpose of this discussion you may assume that I think there is no pandemic. This is part of me trying to explain to you the original point. But you are not willing to try to understand the original point. All you want is for me to say what you want me to say and argue with you about what you want me to argue with you about. And i couldn't care less about that particular thing.
And yes, I want you to argue with me about what you came here to argue about. I don't want you to argue about whether or not you are arguing or whether your arguments are arguments.
@AR-15 in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda, but then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read, and are hell bent on arguing with an imaginary opponent that you want me to play the role of. Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
@Eris @bonifartius
>in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda,
My agenda is to point out how disingenuous and psychotic that "roast" is.
>ut then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read,
That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.
>Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.
>That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.
I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.
>Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.
I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.
>I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.
No you just keep saying "I pointed it out" without ever doing so.
>I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.
I will tell you when you have answered it.
@Eris
>I will tell you when you have answered it
exactly my point
>exactly my point
Your point is that I want you to clarify yourself to me?
Good, that is also my point.
@Eris no that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say, your friend AR-15 has even clarified what exactly you want me to say, and that nothing else will satisfy you
>that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say,
...Yes? That's how being satisfied works?
@Eris So you want me to just role play someone I'm not and not to say what I think, glad we established that. I will not though.
>So you want me to just role play someone I'm not and not to say what I think
No, the exact opposite of that.
What we want, what will satisfy us, is if you say what you think.
We are dying to know.
@Eris I told it multiple times, that for the purposes of this conversation I accepted your premise, and otherwise I couldn't care less, but you will never be satisfied, unless I say exactly what you want to hear, almost word per word.
@AR-15 @bonifartius
@AR-15 no my point stands, even if pandemic does not exist, read it again with the edit I suggested, if there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
>even if pandemic does not exist, read it again with the edit I suggested, if there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
If the pandemic does not exist (it doesn't) then your post is the post of a condescending cunt who is engaging in a struggle session. If the pandemic does not exist (it doesn't) you are evil. You are evil.
If there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
@Eris you did not address anything particular from the my reply, but sure keep asserting your truth and pray for it to magically manifests itself
> you did not address anything particular from the my reply,
Yes because my problem is with the premise of your question, that there is a pandemic.
@Eris there is no such premise in my question. there is such premise in the OP, that is not my premise, and m argument does not rest on it
Please clarify your argument. Is my perception of it wrong, yes or no? If I'm wrong, then what is your argument?
@AR-15 ever tried looking past dichotomy? He said he barely overheard some people saying "dunno what" about unvaxinated, and that he is freaking terrified of that. I told him to not be a pussy and next time go talk to them and figure out what they were about, instead of running home and posting paranoid crap over that particular incident. I don't care about overarching narrative of pro or anti pandemic BS you have going on here, and can't look past.
>hey man are you talking about the pandemic?
"We're not arguing! :) you're just dumb!"
>what the fuck? Are you talking about the pandemic?
>>>>5 hours later
"No lol! I'm talking about genocide."
@AR-15 It's not my fault that you don't know how to talk to people. No judgement for you disability, only for your cowardice.
@AR-15 Again can't read what I write. Where did you write go ask them directly what you are freaking paranoid about. I simple said go talk to them, pretend to be e terrible fascist vaxer if that's what it takes, but I understand if that too much for your sensitivities, not bonafartius though, I will talk to him if he replies
@Eris I udnerstand you have a problem with saying anything either then "are you for us or agains us", but OP is does not suffer from that, that's why I did not suggest you to go to talk to anyone, I suggested the OP. You I suggest to learn to read.
>but OP is does not suffer from that,
How do you suffer from a positive, fruitful attitude?
>pretend to be e terrible fascist vaxer if that's what it takes, but I understand if that too much for your sensitivities, not bonafartius though, I will talk to him if he replies
Why go through an elaborate plot to learn something obvious?
@Eris it's not an elaborate plot it's called a smalltalk. You can't do it I understand, you are too afraid, not to worry.
Being deceptive in order to gain information is an elaborate plot. "Small talk" is a psychopathic learned behavior.
@Eris yes pastor, i convert
I am literally a deacon and I am literally trying to convert you.
Repeating that back to me and adding a sarcastic tone is not insightful.
@Eris you may assign any tone you want to my writing, I don't mind
I try to assign the one you intend. I do not think I have made any errors.
Are you going to seriously claim that you were *unironically* saying "Yes pastor, I convert?"
I don't know why you tell these extremely goofy lies.
@Eris You seemed to have a problem with the tone and not intent, so I wanted to help you. If it is intent that you are after than I'm afraid that there is nothing for you but faith in this matter.
>You seemed to have a problem with the tone and not intent
The former tells me what the latter is.
@Eris Ah we are getting there... you can indeed deduce, but not all the way... what I'm saying is that my intent does not matter.
Sargon used to do this. He would literally use the "i'm lying to you" voice people do on TV and then not understand why people know he's lying.
Nigga if you mock me I pick up on it I'm not retarded.
@AR-15 I never claimed anything like that.
@Eris @bonifartius
@Eris where exactly did I say I can smalltalk?
Nigga we were there.
@AR-15 ah I see, you didn't notice I'm snarky, understandable
@Eris I enjoy it
@AR-15 @bonifartius
That seems pretty psychopathic to me. You enjoy intentionally irritating others for no reason but your own pleasure?
@Eris It's a writing style, I don't care if anyone reads it, other than for them to meet me with the their own style, and have a little bit of an argument in between.
>I like argumentation without points or meaning, just style, no substance
You need a shotgun lobotomy.
@AR-15 the snark is the style, this subthread was about the reason for snark. The arguments are meaningful and are in between.
@AR-15 @namark @Eris @bonifartius
I like argumentation without points or meaning, just style, no substance
“ me enjoy favorite pastime of my people, pilpul “
1. Why would you write something if you don't care if anyone reads it? What is even the point?
2. I am reading what you write, there is no if about it. Act accordingly. Write for your audience of one. This is how conversations work. There are two people.
@Eris I said what precicely I care about when writing, learn to read, lean english yada yayda
>and have a little bit of an argument in between.
When do we start that part? So part it's literally just snark and nothing else.
@Eris I can't help that you are incapable of engaging, and only assert and repeat.
I'm not used to being around evil people like you. I try to avoid associating with people who don't care about the truth. Because I care about Truth.
@AR-15 then you might be interested in stories Hilbert and Godel would tell you. I can retell though, too much work.
>>oh shit. It sounds like he's saying he wants to genocide me! I wish there were a way to find out for sure!
"Hey man how's the weather up there? Haha how's the wife?"
Or would you suggest--
"Haha say there was a group of people who you believed were spreading a disease willingly haha. What do you think should happen to them haha (clearly I am not one haha)"
Utter pilpul and derangement.
>Where did you write go ask them directly what you are freaking paranoid about.
>. I simple said go talk to them,
I didn't say [x] i just said [basically x]