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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

So I posted some questions on our discourse about how we want to use and/or moderate the QOTOJournal hash tag. I will repeat the questions here and leave a link to the discourse at the bottom for further discussion.

Does it have to be STEM specific or can it include other fields?

Does it need to have scientific integrity (Peer review) or simply be "serious"?

Do we enforce any sort of quality standards?

Should it be restricted to only sharing ones own work or can it be for anytime someone shares serious work from any source?

Do we limit the timeline we have built-in to QOTO to only display users of the Tag from our local server?

Do we put any limits to how often people can post to the tag?

What measures, if any, do we want to use to prevent abuse of the tag?

discourse.qoto.org/t/special-h

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵

@freemo The first thing I want to know is the "minimum necessary scope" (like a "where timeline is toots display and how notifications") to post in mastodon. I've been practicing for posting of "unlisted" all the time about a month ago. In the future, even a similar notation will not be a hashtag, but I can find it in full text search as well or I dare to try such a limit. (Now at least notation of such #.QOTO were not what I wanted. It was successful on Twitter, but now fail on Mastodon.) For now, I want a reasonable notation for posting to mastodon (Also for use in combination addons.mozilla.org/ja/firefox/ ).
In other words, I love practice for some day! (If I dare say in Japanese slang, "壁打ち"→"Wall driving practice")!
(As you may have noticed, there are almost everything my other account in @mathst )

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵

@freemo OOPS! In notation like a @.relay etc (Well then there are many on Twitter), Dare I will want to use inserting dot notation #.QOTO etc in future (And I test of text search now, I still don't know that it works!) to avoid notifications!! (Even so, I am careful "not" to appear on the Home Timeline (Using in_reply_to to the account not followed you etc), but is it flowing in real time and displayed? Sorry for testing post in Japanese for a while ago!
@mathst

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵

@.relay@gup.qoto.org #.QOTO （というグループ記法に将来的になりそう予想略）の今日付でfediverse.networkの収載が始まった気がするコノQOTOいかがおすごしでしょうか、グッペDM投稿ではリプライ繋げる垢への＠メンションを入れる絶対忘れる備忘録。あえて言おう、ナンチャッテ購読機能なんて飾りです、偉い人も日付の上で今日中には気付くであろう、次の一手も気にノエなる所ではありラボますが、公正世界はケセラセラッセルなるようになるクス主義 @mathst

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵 boosted
のえる

さっき、Fedibirdの機能をマージしたQOTOの方々と英語で話をしていたんだけど、

・やっぱり英語で500文字は短い
・メンションで会話
・アツい

という感想を得た。

いつも日本語で500文字長文投稿しているので、日本語なら感覚的にどのぐらい書けるかわかっているんだけど、それを英語にして投稿すると2〜3分割しないと入りきらない。日本語の圧縮率凄い。

メンションで会話するのはもの凄く快適（それはそう）。そして話に集中できる。

タイムラインでの会話は、ホームタイムラインであっても、いつもの仲間達との会話、という枠で行っている。

特にメイン言語の違う人達との会話は、中途半端に省略することがなく、様々なことを明示的に示すし、もとよりわかるように話すことを心がけることになるので、何事もはっきりしていて小気味よい。

また、わざわざ声を掛けて話をしようというわけで、彼らはとても関心が強く、熱心だ。

ちなみにこの長い日本語のメッセージ、英語に訳すと1,079文字相当になる。日本語の圧縮率凄い（大事なことなので二回言った）。

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵

一応たたむマンがあらわれたッ 

（ @mathst ドメイン購読機能でブースト収載こそ意味不明だったけど、 mstpubapi.herokuapp.com/timeli の主のブロック解除（違う意味になるらしい略称一時ブロ解はフォロー切る手法のことだったか一瞬忘れてた備忘録）によってソノ鯖からコノ鯖に普通は収載されない人が収載される人のブーストによって収載された公開Public投稿のことかと今は判断（それかフォローしている垢の未収載以上か何かの事なのかもしれんけど不明）Fedibird垢でQotoをブースト除外なしでドメイン購読リストやってみよう、コンナ時代が来るとはシミジミ習慣）

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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵 boosted
のえる

@freemo @namark @puzzl @mewmew Yes, there are some things that are difficult without going through your own server, such as block and mute processing.

The current implementation of Fedibird is a current design based on the ideas described above.

By the way, I have another idea for approaching a remote server. Please wait for the next function addition! :-)

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵 boosted
🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

@noellabo

Can't wait! We dont use fedibird as-is, but I do pull in your features and if needed modify, so appreciate it all the same.

For example QOTO has its local timeline unlike fedibird that eliminates it, we also added in local-only toots and a few other features. But I am very eager to see what else you add to fedibird and potentially pull it into QOTO, it has been a huge help!

Thanks again for all you do!

@namark @puzzl @mewmew

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵

@mathst 今アカギ見てる～

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵

@mathst と考えると、結局ぼくらは「手動オプトインによる特定トゥートまとめポータルサイト」が本当に欲しかったモノだったのであって、特定鯖垢メンションでのグッペよりもCTLアカウントJOINトリガー垢レベルのハッシュタグリレーの方が適しているフォークすべきはソッチだと気付いてほしい、とかは他人の問題だけど、他の同様機能の類似ダークホースとしてのノートストック様とかコレラのトゥギャッターもといイイトコドリが俺の求めていたグループ機能の現状の最適解だとは至りました！

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵

@mathst なるほどフェディバース収載オタクでもなければ、普通はクロトドン的な手法よりもナンチャッテ実装に思われるかもだけど、そこは俺はウェブUIの限界を感じるところではありますなハハハ。つまり根本では自鯖APIで取得されるための内部処理にナンテ他鯖APIカマス危険冗長性みたいな問題なんすかね本音で、建前では表面上だろうと全部を欲しくなる気持ちも分かる気、つまりプレロマ的にフロントエンド分離が逆輸入マストドンの未来予感図略

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵

@noellabo Thank you for explaining!
(By the way, As a client that can do something extraordinary "Timeline Viewer" with other servers, it has not been updated for a long time, but I like "Kurotodon" chrome.google.com/webstore/det )

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵 boosted
のえる

@puzzl @freemo @mewmew The solution is a relay and a Federation bot.

Relays are the perfect mechanism for exchanging the LTL we just want.

Federation bot is an automated program that follows all users found on fediverse in the way that mastodon.host does. However, this is an overkill approach, as you get extra information outside of the public post. Not all users can be found and are often refused to follow.

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵 boosted
のえる

@puzzl @freemo
@mewmew
The "subscribe" function does not make API calls to other servers. Subscribe to only posts delivered to the server by ActivityPub. Same as FTL. Therefore, the LTL of another server cannot be completely obtained.

Mastodon does not generally use APIs for communication between servers. APIs are used to resolve communication between specific server software and clients. The server only uses ActivityPub and simple HTTP requests to communicate with fediverse.

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵

Maybe not, but Sorry for my ruding from nothing to relating! 

( @freemo I want to be mixed for some reason I'm free! I also think same As mentioned by mewmew and namark, both of the above are the other server's "Timeline Viewer" functions to display only the TOOTs already listed on this server (I personally understand whether it was convenient for processing time @noellabo ). In Japan, There was history of "Timeline Viewer" translate.google.com/translate (by using API mstpubapi.herokuapp.com/timeli etc may be the easiest to use now.). So I'm not too embarrassed in this matter (Rather, it is useful because you can see the status of only the TOOTs that have reached this server.). Maybe not, but Sorry for my ruding from nothing to relating!

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵 boosted
🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

@mewmew

As far as i understand this code (I didnt write it so I may be getting it wrong) thats not hwo it works. Remote instances provide an API point that has the entire local feed (the public part). As far as I can tell when you view the remote timeline here by pulling it up via the properties as its own column then it does in fact fill everything in, not just things from the remote timeline, but there is a bug and it does miss some stuff I think.

What you describe does apply too but thats only when you do it through Domain Subscriptions a seperate but similar feature we provide that works through filtering the federated feed instead.

@noellabo @namark

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Fedinversive＠Geometry🎌🇯🇵 boosted
🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

Our new are now up and live, everyone using Instance Trackers can now see our animated icon and QOTO colors! So cool

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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

@n0btc So yea seems they do have retweet and retweet with comment.

And yes I did hear before (though I dont recall from who or if it is true) that the reason eugene left off the features was as you describes.

Eugene is extremely opininated about mastodon, its his project so his right, I am welcome to fork it, and well, thats why I did, I want some features he doesnt, thats my right.

Users will use whatever they enjoy in the end.

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QOTO Announcements & Polls

One of our moderators @design_RG wrote this excellent article on the QOTO discourse server that explains all the new features in QOTO along with screen shots and a detailed explanation of how to use it. Its worth a read if your feeling a bit confused:

discourse.qoto.org/t/qoto-org-

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