@ike_seblon
I see AI as a tool.
I am missing your point I'm sorry. I tried to argument my opinion in a clear way, maybe I failed.
I really do not understand what you mean by my lack of understanding and being wrong on fundamental levels. It is a bit offensive to be treated this way.
I feel like this chat is not really going anywhere at this point. If you wish to explain a bit better what you mean by that, that may help.
I'll reiterate: why is a constructive and artistic use of AI not conceivable?
@ike_seblon @jwz @alexr
The prompt itself often has no communicative value.
Should I give you all the SVG commands or you'd rather see the rendered image?
Why would AI devalue or damage humans communication abilities is unclear to me.
AI is a tool, it tells you nothing. It is not there to inherently attempt to make your life worse. Using AI does not mean you're incapable of doing things. It means you are able to do certain things using AI as a tool. You're not incapable of writing because you use a keyboard rather than a pen.
Indeed I agree it can be misused, in some cases it may even be dangerous for some people. I'm thinking for example at people using chatbots as substitutes for psychologists.
What I don't understand is why a proper and constructive use is not conceivable to you.
@ike_seblon @jwz @alexr
Sure, everyone has the ability to make things. I agree with that.
I'm not sure what you mean by commercial form however. You can use AI to make many different things. I do not think that AI can only be used to do one single type of thing, depending on who uses it different outcomes may be obtained.
Some people are very good at ink drawing and others are good at drawing on the computer. Switch them around and possibly don't do as well and get frustrated. Is the person drawing on the computer evil because he does not use an ink pen?
I do not see what is evil of one person trying to make something nice using AI. Maybe even trying to convey an important message. I really do not see why that should not be considered an artistic endeavour.
@monkeyben @jwz @alexr
I do not agree: with AI you prompt for something specific. You prompt several times until you obtain a certain result which has some properties you desire. After that you may further modify what you obtained with other techniques.
This whole process is artistic. It is not the AI itself who is deciding what to do and providing the finished things. It's a human using the AI as a tool to create something. The value is not in the AI itself, it's in how the person uses it to obtain a certain result.
Many painters said that computer graphics would destroy traditional arts. That did not happen, computer graphics created a new form of art with new techniques which can be used.
You can use traditional painting techniques and use computer graphics to add certain things to it, or you can do arts completely using computer graphics.
AI has the potential to develop completely new artistic forms. I feel this has not happened yet, it is currently mostly used to simplify doing what has been traditionally done in computer graphics.
However I do start seeing artistic applications of AI. Italian Brainrots may be seen as a prototypical form of new art using this technique. It's not something I really enjoy or value, but it does have its artistic value. Same as you could see the first stickman pictures as an initial form of computer graphics art.
I do believe it is possible to transmit messages and feelings through images generated with AI.
@monkeyben @jwz @alexr
The fact that it was trained on stolen data is indeed a problem.
I completely understand if you consider using AI as immoral as it uses stolen data.
However, it can be used to create new things with an artistic value. I don't see why someone would say that things made with the aid of AI have no artistic value.
A collage just takes things made by other people, and sticks them together in an artistic way.
@bbacc
Questo dovrebbe essere molto illegale. In spagna è vietato alzare l'affitto più di un tot definito all'anno. E il tot è tipo 1%.
Questo almeno nei primi 5 anni di contratto. Ma credo che anche dopo vi siano delle precauzioni.
Bastardi, questa è violenza pura.
Violenza economica, privazione del tetto, e pure violenza fisica per mano della polizia.
Triplicare un affitto da un mese all'altro per costringere la gente ad andarsene e fare soldi veloci con gli affitti brevi; finché sarà legale, ci sarà sempre qualcuno che lo farà.
Boicottiamo questi appartamenti del cazzo, andiamo in hotel.
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@jwz @alexr
I completely disagree. AI is a tool, if properly used it allows people to express themselves in ways which may not have been previously possible.
Someone may have a wonderful idea for an image, but not the ability to make it himself; I see nothing wrong in using a tool which simplifies doing that.
AI is not replacing art, if anything AI is an additional tool which can be used to make art.
That would be like saying that since electric guitars exist there is no more classical music, which very much is not the case.
CW: Inserimento IUD
@beet
Sono uomo, ma recentemente mi ha descritto una ragazza che ha avuto molto dolore mentre le mettevano la spirale. Però lei non ha mai avuto figli.
Iceland was the only country in the world without mosquitos—now they’ve found three
The insects will likely stay in the Nordic country.
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#science #popsci
https://www.popsci.com/environment/iceland-mosquitoes/
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@NicholasLaney @GustavinoBevilacqua @las_lallero @sans_serif_girl
Non sono tipo tre anni prima che faccia un frutto?
Negli anni precedenti fa il fiore lo stesso?
@sans_serif_girl @GustavinoBevilacqua
Caspita, io sono stato fortunato. Solo un po' di gonfiore al braccio ma non mi ha fatto nulla.
Però se non sbaglio io l'ho fatto solo due volte: una vaccinazione ed una di protezione ai sei mesi se non sbaglio
@GustavinoBevilacqua
Io sbullonerei la parte tagliente in modo da fissarla e poi ruoti i manici
@GustavinoBevilacqua
Io sbullonerei la parte tagliente in modo da fissarla e poi ruoti i manici
@lysander
Almeno Silvio era divertente. Peccato che non si sia dedicato più al cabarettismo che non alla politica. Li si che diventava ricco.
@superviviansunshine
In which countries are you willing to work? Plenty positions for computational chemists in the EU.
We just closed a call, but may be looking for more soon.
Italian, MSc in chemistry specialized in cheminformatics and QSAR.
I'm interested in cooking and building stuff.
I love traveling, I lived in India, China, Slovenia, Poland and Spain.
Currently working in Spain in the field of genomics; and doing a PhD in Drug Development using Quantum Mechanics and Artificial Intelligence.
Don't take what I say as an insult, I have no bad intentions and I'm open to talk about it.
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