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@freemo it strikes me that one part of the problem is having a reporting system that can effectively be used to spam an admin into submission.

The hounding of Wil Wheaton off here bothers me greatly. Suggests the admins of Mastodon instances can’t be trusted to do the right thing vs the easy thing (which I don’t blame them for entirely) and highlights a fundamental problem of social media. That the ill informed baying crowd gets what they want is simply not good enough.

Overheard in Portrush
“Oh look at the wee chairs. The wee chairs, there.”
“Oh God Jesus look at the wee chairs.”
“Look at the wee chairs.”
“Jesus God look at the wee chairs.”

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@drewfer @trayofbees I’m referring to ideas that deny the humanity of others. These ideas, for me, are not up for debate.

It's no wonder @Gargron (Eugen) hardly answers anyone. I've seen at least five different people bitching to him about different spleens they feel they need to vent today.

I always remember when we interviewed Evan Prodromou en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Pro towards the end of identi.ca and he said "It was terrible, I felt like I was on a burning bus, nobody wanted to put the fire out in fact they just wanted to pour more fuel on the fire."

Maybe we should all start thanking Eugen for the service we use?

There's a lot of customer culture attitude in Mastodon-the-community, where people treat Gargron and other devs, the instance admins, moderators, etc. like service workers. It's a spoiled, entitled attitude, where "the customer is always right" and it's okay to be abusive or demeaning to people providing a service when they don't give you what you want.

The fediverse isn't a corporate model. When you're rude or demeaning to someone here, you're being abusive to volunteers building a playground

:fry: Not sure if this is my favorite Emoji, or just wanting to make a meme.

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@trayofbees @drewfer that said... there are occasions when people will cry out about not being able to share their valid political views, which turn out to be a front for a shitstorm of awfulness that simply pisses on other people. That’s not ok and it can’t be subject to debate. Some ideas are not fit to be debated.

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@trayofbees @drewfer it’s the problem of any extreme and the inability to see there’s an alternative viewpoint that’s valid. The inability to debate and to compromise. Sure you can drive out and away those who don’t fit into a very small clique but it can only get smaller with that attitude and can’t be sustainable.

I’m about to enjoy this hot chocolate from a caravan near the giants causeway. Oh yes. Thanks mini maegden

@freemo
Nobody is the bad guy themselves. We all come up with a narrative that justifies our actions, usually by blaming others for things we would normally consider mis-deeds. Some of the current theory of the human mind backs this up. I recently read an interesting book: The Mind Is Flat by Nick Chater which is a good intro to some of the current ideas.

@indiauplko
Hah... my laptop came with Windows 10. I can't even get the necessary drivers to re-install it....

An iconic Belfast building, that survived a couple bombs in its history, looks to have been pretty much destroyed by accidental fire. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ire

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@techbolt
Honestly I'm so fed up with Corbyn and his following.... Have to admit I supported him, ignored the warnings, wanted to see him given a chance but he just doesn't have it. I actually agree with many policies and the man has a history of being right. Sadly being right doesn't mean you can take people on a journey towards that. Politics, at least for me these days, is all about the ability to make a messy compromise that takes things forward.
@freemo

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@techbolt @freemo
Though don't start asking me for examples because my mind has gone strangely blank....

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@techbolt
:( Indeed.... Though, again that's recent behaviour. There's always been self seeking idiots in parliament but some really strong, socially beneficial reforms have come through the Torys. Little chance of that now.
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@freemo
Interesting stuff... Yes what these labels mean and how they're applied is pretty variable. I also agree the temptation to call someone one thing and assume that predicts their behaviour/beliefs/ideology on everything is nonsense. I find it fascinating that the Republican party, for example, are almost entirely the opposite of what they used to be yet claim the same conservative basis. Much the same for the Conservative party in the UK.
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