@freemo @khird @trinsec
@barefootstache hey, wasn't sure where to send this, so apologies if this isn't the place... but does qoto.org not support the elk.zone client? elk is (was) my go-to desktop client for mastodon, but now that i've switched to this instance i can't log in to it. (either says "Can't connect" on the domain autofill UI, or "ERROR: TypeError: Failed to fetch" after. doesn't happen with any of my other instance tester accounts!

@sabbatical @khird @trinsec @barefootstache

This is the first I am hearing about that client, so honestly I just dont know... If for some reason the client isnt supported I can tell you it is unintentional on our part.

@freemo @khird @trinsec @barefootstache oh really? @elk is probably the client i've heard folks talk about and talk about using most! prob even more than @ivory and @IceCubesApp

@sabbatical @khird @trinsec @barefootstache @elk @ivory @IceCubesApp

I cant say I've had a close eye on clients as of late, so that may be true.. I use the standard web client myself because it has and will always give me access to the most features.

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@freemo @khird @trinsec @barefootstache ahh, i prefer less features to be honest (at least visually.) i like my interfaces clean and lean :) same with twitter β€” i couldnt use it without something like the "minimal twitter" extension.

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@sabbatical

Fair enough... thats one reason you can turn on/off advanced mode. Some features unique to QOTO are just functionally super useful.. like being able to follow the feed of a specific server, or being able to subscribe to accounts instead of follow them.

@khird @trinsec @barefootstache

@freemo
Wouldn't this kind of be solved with having an actual simple UI? One that's intentionally not utilizing every feature here just to keep things minimalistic?

@sabbatical @khird @barefootstache

@trinsec

Yea, i mean we have simple mode, but I suspect it could be simpler. I would have to review.

@sabbatical @khird @barefootstache

@freemo
I'm not talking simple mode (which I use, by the way), I'm talking actual simple theme.

@sabbatical @khird @barefootstache

@trinsec @sabbatical @khird @barefootstache

I will write the simplest UI known to man.. it will just have a single button, no feeds, no text box.. it will be labeled "scream into the void".. when you press it it posts a single toot that just contains "AHHHHHHHHHHHH!", no replies will be shown :)

@freemo @trinsec @khird @barefootstache hah, i mean, i'm not an extremist on either end β€” i wouldnt want to live in an empty box OR with clutter. maybe a theme could work? am trying some but not keen on any so far. (and a couple seemed sorta broken?) didnt see any actually dark (or at least grey instead of blue) dark themes as well.

@sabbatical Mm, I use the Mastodon Default Theme (dark) myself. Granted, I also throw a bit of the Dark Reader browser plugin over it to have it that little more dark pizzazz that I'm very happy with.

Mm, see screenie.

@freemo @khird @barefootstache

@trinsec @freemo @khird @barefootstache ok, thanks. nice to get a glimpse of what you see. the look doesn't appeal to me still (trying dark reader too), but i suppose it's possible i could achieve something i like by writing some CSS into stylish if i got motivated.

@trinsec @freemo @khird @barefootstache or maybe i'll just pony up for ivory for mac instead and call it a day. still weird elk doesn't work here though.

@sabbatical No problem. We just aren't too experienced with clients in general. 😬

I can install Android clients to figure it out for our users (and I've done so before). But I tend to use the mobile web interface because there are a lot more features on Qoto that aren't covered by the clients.

@freemo @khird @barefootstache

@trinsec @freemo @khird @barefootstache huh, interesting β€” what kind of features are you talking about? haven't stumbled on anything new so far myself.

@sabbatical
Subscribe feature, quote toots, bookmarks (before vanilla Mastodon got it), Markdown support, Latex support, special per-toot options..
I think it's easier to check the features in this link ;)
qoto.org/about/more

@freemo @khird @barefootstache

@trinsec @freemo @khird @barefootstache ok, thanks. will check these out! btw, you mentioned installing clients, but elk.zone isn't an app you install β€” it's an alternate web interface.

@sabbatical Yeah, but to an alternate web interface the same limitations as with clients would be the case. They have to work off the same API I believe.

@freemo @khird @barefootstache

@sabbatical
You know, if you see a dark theme on another Mastodon instance that you like a lot, maybe you can let @freemo know about it. Who knows maybe it can be installed here if the versions haven't diverged too much.

@freemo @khird @barefootstache

@sabbatical

GreaseMonkey and Stylus are my go to extensions when customizing the UI.

Maybe there might already be a theme under either user’s scripts library that applies for your situation.

@trinsec @freemo @khird

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