volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@freemo capitalism isn't a property of a government.

It's not only entirely possible for it to exist outside of any government context, but it's bound to exist there, given human nature and interests.

@dashrandom @avlcharlie @mapto

@avlcharlie

> My question then is what's the one where greedy people hoard up all of the money and resources

I just want to point out how unrealistic this is in today's world, despite how frequently it's mythologized and theorized and used to promote political interests.

For someone to hoard up all of the money and resources is for that person to voluntarily accept a lower standard of living for themself, to act against their own interests, quite irrationally.

It's to say, Sure I could buy these things and contract for that service, which would make my life better, but nah, I'll just warehouse away my wealth instead of actually using it to make my own life better.

Modern society has built plenty of mechanisms to avoid getting stuck in such opportunity costs to the wealthy.

Scrooge McDuck and his swimming in his money vault was not a real option.

@freemo @mapto

@mapto but it is *because* utility is subjective that your complaints about costs not being included are on shaky ground.

It's likely enough that the thing you personally consider important is being left out of the equation because others don't consider it important.

So it is a disagreement with the calculation of costs.

@freemo @avlcharlie

@mapto I think what you're illustrating is NOT that the costs aren't included, but that you personally don't agree with the costs.

You want those people to place higher value on their resources than they do. Their valuation doesn't match your own, and you're insisting that you're right, wanting to impose your personal values on them.

Let's be clear about what you're doing here, including the way it has associations with colonialism.

The people in those poor countries need to be fixed in their valuation of their resources?

@freemo @avlcharlie

@m Well, the standard leaves you free to define your own object type.

Feel free to transmit whatever you'd like into the system!

@iuculano that's a really unrealistic position, though.

Not only does the American government have plenty of protection built up around democracy, so it's not even an option for there to be such a sensation, but to get there he has to build up these giant strawmen around supposedly decoding Trump's rhetoric.

It's really something how many reporters land on the idea that they are receiving secret messages from the president, which is insane, and how often we accept them on that level.

@momo the famous supposed lack of algorithm means people feel the need to reshare because otherwise it'll be lost to the mists of time.

In reality, chronological sort IS an algorithm, just a really crappy one, and that crappiness is illustrated by this.

@krans we've already seen that they aren't THAT well organized and certainly no match for the protections built to protect the system from people like them.

This clutching at pearls ends up being counterproductive, actually promoting Trump's reelection and playing into the rhetoric of the right.

@fkamiah17

@Free_Press this is the kind of thing that we should all have been highlighting for years, not that Trump was an evil despot about to swoop in and impose martial law but that he was a loser with a long record of failure and mismanagement.

@Free_Press what accident? She's long been crying that other Republicans aren't doing what she wants them to do.

@binaryhawk that's not what's going on.

Courts aren't talking about giving anyone immunity. They're talking about the boundaries of concepts of immunity that have been long recognized.

It's not giving. It's outlining.

@m well it's not that posts are called notes but that of the types defined by ActivityStreams some interfaces have chosen to mark content that way.

As per the standard a note "Represents a short written work typically less than a single paragraph in length."

Arguably this that I'm typing here is a document, not a note, regardless of what Mastodon thinks of it.

https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#object-types

@pearlbear Like I said above, one effect is in cutting off a means for owners to be able to raise money to afford housing.

@pearlbear and that makes it even harder to afford housing.

Not only is rent high, but I can't even have the option of trying to make it easier to afford by renting the place out when I don't need it?

Regulations like these hurt the exact people they are supposedly trying to help.

@SteveThompson Oh, The prosecutions are happening under Biden's administration; he bears ultimate responsibility for such authoritarian actions against these people.

To say he really has little control over it absolves him of his fundamental responsibility for overseeing it.

This is his administration. If he wants to run such an overbearing administration looking to crack down on the little guy, that's a great reason we need a different candidate.

@micchiato@mastodon.social this sort of idea misses that it's the executive branch, not this judicial branch, that threatens freedom.

It is based in a fundamental misunderstanding of the US system of government.

@micchiato@mastodon.social It sounds like you just don't like the outcomes regardless of the logical reasoning that may have required them.

Over and over we see the court applying the results of the democratic process, but instead of using the tools of the democratic process to realize better outcomes, we end up blaming the court for the very things that we asked for through our voting practices.

We keep electing really awful representatives to Congress. We should stop that. But we keep re-electing them even after they fail us.

To blame the Supreme Court is to ignore our own role, and even worse, it's to buy into a disempowered philosophy where we give up our own right to change these things.