volkris @volkris@qoto.org

@jpanzer What specific lies are you referring to?

Really, articles like these are sensational and kind of miss that Musk leans into the troll persona that has been projected onto him. All of this is trolling.

He wants attention, and articles like this give him what he wants.

If you want to change the direction, the best thing to do is just ignore the guy.

@Edelruth Stephen Miller hides?

I often hear him giving interviews and just think to myself, dude you don't have any good public presence, you probably should be hiding.

@MEActNOW how is blue going to help?

This is just the reality. As risks increase insurance makes less sense.

@jbenjamint It's really unfortunate but we really need to hall Reich for leaving economics behind and becoming just another political hack.

In this case he's comparing apples and oranges because the CEO job today is so much different than what it used to be. To compare the pay from one to the other is just political rhetoric.

And it really frustrates me that this guy used to be legit, but now he's just putting out misleading rhetoric day after day.

@socprof What strikes me is that this probably says more about journalism than about politics or Republicans. It sure sounds like reporters misinterpreting and oversimplifying the reporting has run into the brick wall of reality where the oversimplifications have trouble capturing the changing context of what they're trying to report.

Just for one, it's the difference between supporting something being legal versus supporting someone doing the legal thing. Those are vastly different questions that far too often end up oversimplified into a single number.

Unfortunately it sounds like you might be falling for similar oversimplifications in the way the Republican position is being framed here.

If you actually stop and listen to mainstream conservative media, it doesn't really match this.

@AmandaMarcotte

@rchusid and let's never forget to hold the Democratic party accountable for nominating her without a primary process and leaving us stuck with such a week, compromised candidate.

We really need to be fussing at the party for their failures.

@CharlieMcHenry The story that Elon used starlink to disrupt Ukraine communications was quickly debunked. No, that's not how starlink works.

Stories about undermining democratic discourse are similarly weak.

Yeah, The best way to oppose Trump is to have a good opposition candidate, and it's just a shame that the Democratic party nominated such a weak one.

We really need to hold the party accountable for failing us that way. The drama about Musk is a distraction from the failures of the political institution. We need to be yelling at them everyday for failing us.

@nrohluap but it sounds like you're making a logical leap. Just because we were able to fix some problems doesn't mean we will be able to fix others.

Some things are just physically impossible. And that's just reality.

But unfortunately, politicians are all too happy to ignore reality and make promises that can't physically be kept. We need to be aware of that and hold them accountable for it.

@meganL

@faab64 keep in mind that Biden has been criticized for not seeming to care about American citizens taken as hostage.

So in this case, the administration really is equally disinterested in the lives of American citizens.

@palestine

@europesays I often listen to the BBC World Service just to marvel at how disconnected it is from what's actually happening in the US.

Yeah, maybe that is how the US looks to the rest of the world. Sure would be nice if the rest of the world was better informed, but whatever, as long as they stay out of US business they won't do much harm.

@kmetz It's like you haven't heard her talk.

She comes across as horribly weak, ignorant of basic concepts of US civics, doesn't seem to know which branch of government she is in now much less what branch of government she's applying for, she's very divisive, and really fearful of saying the wrong thing, so she ends up babbling at length.

No, there is no good option this election cycle. And we need to hold the Democratic party accountable for its failure to nominate someone worth voting for.

@jonny often enough when a story makes no sense is because you don't understand what's going on here, it's because you are putting it in the wrong context and just personally missing the bus.

No, losing privacy and stealing a sandwich are not the same thing. It's weird that you think they are.

This is apples and oranges. They are not a comparable thing. Letting knowledge go to more people is not the same as losing the ability to eat a sandwich.

This seems to make no sense to you because you just don't understand what you're talking about here, you are framing it incorrectly, you don't understand the mechanics of the situation.

So you just come across as sounding kind of ignorant, naive. Your argument doesn't really make sense.

@profdc9 unfortunately there is no option in this election that respects peoples' rights.

Unfortunately we're at a time in society where politics have become so utterly unhealthy that both parties ended up nominating really awful people.

But that's what happens when the federal government has let people down so badly.

@StillIRise1963

@ralfmaximus

The Supreme Court sitting as a court of appeals doesn't get to decide who does and does not go to jail in general. That's just not within its authority. So these stories just don't make sense to anyone familiar with basic US civics.

And yeah, it is a conspiracy theory to talk about people getting together to coordinate for some end goal like that.

The US government was specifically set up not to allow the sort of stories that this is promulgating.

@Nonilex

@Nonilex notably absent from that comment is any analysis as to whether the decision was actually correct or not. Which is really the only thing that matters.

And yet the only thing that matters is missing from the conspiracy theory.

@Nonilex No, that's not at all what happened. What you're saying here is contradicted by the public record, the publicly released ruling.

It's a rewriting of history, and it's not good for society to promote these myths.

The Supreme Court didn't step into the contested presidential race or hand the presidency to Bush. Instead it stepped into a contested lower court action, and it pointed out that the lower court was acting illegally, and it struck down the lower court ruling.

The rest was up to Florida.

It's critical to remind people that the Supreme Court generally acts as a court of appeals, as it was in this case. It did not and could not have handed the election to Bush given the way the US system works.

@Lyle That's the wrong direction to approach this problem, though.

Zoning really is between the city and residents, so this amounts to a proposal that the federal government should inject itself between local government and the people. It's just not an appropriate way to throw money around.

@chad I don't think you're understanding their argument.

Their argument is not that it would change the election but that it would uncover the correct result. It wasn't so much telling the guy to find the votes as much as it was telling him that he will find that the votes came out that way based on things like exit polling and statistical methods of confirming the election results.

If you don't understand their argument you can't really engage with them. And it sounds like you don't understand their argument.

@Pineywoozle but you see how that doesn't help, though?

If the person already thinks FEMA is falling down on the job, then presenting what FEMA is saying doesn't do much to counter that claim.

@adtothebone

@falken @bibliolater @QOTO

Yeah, here's hoping that it's one of those situations where the platform starts to support some of those features natively so they can start dropping the patches as they go.

But from what I've seen of mastodon development... That's probably wishful thinking 🙂